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| 9931 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 0 | Page 1 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, WASHINGTON, D.C. i INTERVIEW OF: SARAH KELLEN a5 Thursday, May 21, 2026 Washington, D.C. The‘interview in the above matter was held in Room 2247, Rayburn House Office Building, commencing at 10:09 a.m. Present: Representatives Comer, Higgins, Biggs, Mace, Fallon, Timmons, Boebert, Burlison, Krishnamoorthi, Khanna, Stansbury, Garcia, Frost, Subramanyam, Ansari, and Wa… | ||
| 9932 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 1 | Page 2 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Appearances: For the COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM: DANIEL ASHWORTH, GENERAL COUNSEL BRITTANY BRIGNAC, SENIOR COUNSEL ALAN BRUBAKER, SENIOR ADVISOR HANNAH CATHEY, PROFESSIONAL STAFF MEMBER i MALLORY COGAR, DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS AHMARI COLLINS, FELLOW JESSICA COLLINS, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR: JACK EMMER, CHIEF COUNSEL FOR INVESTIGATIONS a5 EMILY FEYERABEND, COUNSEL BILLY GRANT, DEPUTY CHIEF COUNSEL FOR INVESTIGATIONS WILL HARNI… | ||
| 9933 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 2 | Page 3 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 , MINORITY LEGAL INTERN , MINORITY SENIOR COUNSEL |, MINORITY FELLOW , MINORITY SENIOR COUNSEL , MINORITY SENIOR COUNSEL |, MINORITY FELLOW |, MINORITY SENIOR ADVISOR |, MINORITY CHIEF COUNSEL For SARAH KELLEN: i KATHLEEN CASSIDY Morvillo Abramowitz Grand lason & Anello PC. 565 Fifth Avenue a5 New York, NY 10017 KIMBERLY HAMM CARLOS URIARTE Morrison Foerster 2100 L Street,NW, Suite 900 Washington, D.C. 20037 | ||
| 9934 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 3 | Page 4 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Ms. Brignac. We're ready to go on the record. This is a transcribed interview of Ms. Sarah Kellen conducted by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform under the authority granted to it pursuant to House rule X. Accordingly, House rule X grants the Committee broad jurisdiction for the Committee to conduct investigations of any matter at any time. This interview was requested by Chairman James Comer as part of the Committee's inv… | ||
| 9935 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 4 | Page 5 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Chairman Comer. James Comer, Chairman of House oversight. Mr. Higgins. Clay Higgins, part of the Oversight Committee, Louisiana Representative. Mr. Biggs. Andy Biggs, Arizona-5. Ms. Brignac, Starting with the majority staff, can the -- Mr. Krishnamoorthi. Raja Krishnamoorthi, Illinois. Mr. Walkinshaw. James Walkinshaw, Virginia's 11th district. Ms. Brignac, Starting with the majority staff, can the additional staff members please introduce th… | ||
| 9936 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 5 | Page 6 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Ms. a. fF YS research analyst for Ranking Member Garcia. Mr. | | fellow, Ranking Member Garcia. Ms. i. a. fellow, Ranking Member Garcia. Mr. a. a. legal intern, Ranking Member Garcia. Ms. Ha. a. comms director, Ranking Member Garcia. Mr.Hi. | OY senior adviser, Ranking Member Garcia. Ms. Brignac. Ms. Kellen, before we begin, I'd like to go over the groundcrules for this interview. The questioning will proceed in rounds. The majority will ask … | ||
| 9937 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 6 | Page 7 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 manner possible, so we will take our time. If you have any questions or do not fully understand the question, please let us know. We will attempt to clarify, add context to, or rephrase the questions. If we ask about specific conversations or events in the past and you are unable to recall the exact words or details, you should testify to the substance of those conversations or events to the best.of your recollection. If you recall only a par… | ||
| 9938 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 7 | Page 8 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Ms. Brignac. Please note that, if you wish to assert a privilege over any statement today that assertion must comply with the rules of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. Pursuant to that, Committee rule 16(c)(1) states, "For the chair to consider assertions of privilege over testimony or statements, witnesses or entities must clearly state the specific privilege being asserted and the reason for the assertion on or before the s… | ||
| 9939 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 8 | Page 9 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Ms. Kellen. No, | don't have any other questions. No. Ms. Brignac. Great. And | believe we had another member join us. Can he please identify himself for the record? Mr. Timmons. William Timmons, South Carolina. Ms. Brignac. Thank you. | understand you have an opening statement that you would like to read for the record? Ms. Kellen. Yes. Ms. Brignac. You can do so now. Ms. Kellen. Thank you. Chairman, Ranking Member, and members of the Commit… | ||
| 9940 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 9 | Page 10 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 groomed and molested and then raped. | dropped out of high school at the age of 15 to prepare to marry this man, which | did at the age of 17. To me, | had no other choice. It was the only way to reconcile the fact we were having sex outside of wedlock, a grave sin in the eyes of Jehovah God. At the time, | thought it was love. .Only much, much later did | come to understand what had happened to me was wrong. My husband took me to Hawaii, tho… | ||
| 9941 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 10 | Page 11 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 for Victoria's Secret. Jeffrey flew me to L.A. for a casting in his Shutters on the Beach hotel room. Although he did not sexually assault me that day, he made me think he was a model scout and told me to undress for him, which | did. Months later, while working at a hotel, a young woman| worked with became friends with me and knew | was desperately trying to leave Hawaii. She said she knew of a couple in New-York looking for an assistant and… | ||
| 9942 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 11 | Page 12 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 labor, he instructed me to draw him a bath on the island, then ordered me to undress and get in with him. And he said, "The job is yours. Now you just have to keep it." He then pulled me onto his bed and made clear what keeping the job required. Only after submitting to his sexual abuse did the paychecks begin. $25,000 a year for working nonstop, on-call 24/7, months at a time with no days off. | understood the math exactly. | was being paid,… | ||
| 9943 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 12 | Page 13 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 form. | have only just begun to understand this myself over the past few years through therapy. | can provide more information how | was groomed, but | will not speak for others and how they were groomed. Jeffrey made certain | knew that defying him would cost me my life. He knew everyone in the highest echelons of society and everyone catered to him. He knew everyone in the fashion industry, academics, finance, government, powerful world lea… | ||
| 9944 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 13 | Page 14 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 own abuser, without ever once speaking to me. From the day Jeffrey Epstein found me until July of 2019, no one from the Federal Government, or any government for that matter, ever contacted me about anything, not once. | have spent every year since trying to live underneath that piece of paper. | finally extricated myself from Jeffrey Eptsein's grasp in 2013, when | became engaged to a man who gave me, for the first time in my life, a piece o… | ||
| 9945 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 14 | Page 15 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 appreciate you speaking with us. The Committee today will be referring to you as Sarah Kellen, but we would like to note for the record the Committee understands you have also had the surname Kensington and Vickers. Is that correct? A Correct. Q_ Thank you. Let's start by discussing your background. You mentioned that you were raised in North Carolina. Is that where you were born? A | was born in Fort Worth, Texas, and my family moved to Nort… | ||
| 9946 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 15 | Page 16 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Q Yes, just briefly walk me through your professional career. A | mean, my first job was as a hostess. | worked at like a little gift store in North Carolina. In Hawaii, | worked at a food truck. | worked at a bikini store. | worked at Banana Republic as a hostess at the W Hotel in Honolulu. And then | was a personal assistant for Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. Q Any other positions you've held at other companies? A | worked at a mort… | ||
| 9947 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 16 | Page 17 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 A Owner, | guess, principal. Q Okay. Who did Darren Indyke ask you to turn the company over to? A | don't remember the name. Q When did he ask you to turn the company over? A | think it was 2015, probably the same time that it was dissolved. Q___ Did he tell you why he asked you to do that? A No. Q___ Did you ask him why? A No. Q__ Tell me about the first time you interacted with Jeffrey Epstein. i A The very first time was in L.A. He called … | ||
| 9948 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 17 | Page 18 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 story, about being divorced and disfellowshipped and trapped in Hawaii. And she told me about a wealthy couple that was looking for a personal assistant and if | would be interested in the job, and | was like, sounds like a dream come true. Yes. And then she organizeda flight for her and I to fly from Honolulu to Jeffrey's private island: And he met us at the dock when we arrived. We took a boat over to the island, and | remember seeing him a… | ||
| 9949 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 18 | Page 19 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 the door, walked you through, anyone else that was present? A So he had a masseuse -- he'd just gotten a massage and a masseuse answered the door. And it was a large, like, suite. So it had a separate living room and a half bath and then the bedroom. And she showed me in and said that he just got a massage, and she showed me to like the half bath so | could freshen up from the red-eye, and then she took me into his bedroom. And | remember him… | ||
| 9950 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 19 | Page 20 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 BY MS. BRIGNAC: Q_ Thank you. How did you meet i? A She was interning at the front desk at the W Hotel in Honolulu. Apparently Jeffrey got her the internship because he was friends with Tom Barrack, who owned the hotel. Q_ What did that friend tell you that persuaded you to reconnect with Mr. Epstein? A Well, | didn't know that's who she was introducing me to. She never told‘me his name. She just told me there was a wealthy couple in New York… | ||
| 9951 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 20 | Page 21 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Q_ And do you know how they knew each other prior to that or how that played out? A I don't. Q_ Okay. Mr. Biggs. Can | ask a question? | don't want to interrupt, but can | ask a question? Looking back on it, do you view this person as someone who might've been procuring.on behalf of Mr. Epstein? Ms. Hamm, | don't think she can speak to other victims, truly, and I'm notsure she would have the ability to answer that question. Mr. Biggs. | guess… | ||
| 9952 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 21 | Page 22 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 A | had just got into my bra and underwear, and that seemed logical since it was a Victoria's Secret casting, and | remember just like doing a little turn, turning around so he could see my body. And he flipped through my portfolio and then handed it back and was just like, "Thanks. You're welcome to come back at 4:00," but | didn't really think anything of it. | was like -- | didn't really see the point in coming back because he had already … | ||
| 9953 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 22 | Page 23 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 wealth? A | don't know at what point | learned what he did, but | understood that he managed billionaires' money. Like they told me he wouldn't take on a client unless they were worth $1 billion. Ghislaine would tell me, you know, "You should really listen to what he says and, you know, do what he says, because he's clearly very successful and influential, and he can help you." Q_ Who told you that he wouldn't take a client unless they were o… | ||
| 9954 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 23 | Page 24 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 immediately go to him to get approval. He just decimated any source of autonomy that | had, which was very little at the time considering my upbringing. He dictated my haircut, my hair color. He would go to the salon with me and tell them what color to make it, what cut to make it. He gave me a boy cut with bangs, blonde hair, brown hair;and every length, every cut. He was extremely, extremely demanding and had no sense of reality.in what it … | ||
| 9955 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 24 | Page 25 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 responsibilities, while | was being sexually abused on a regular basis. Q_ Thank you. Over how many years did your relationship take place? A | met him in -- well, technically started working for him in 2000 -- end of 2001, and started segueing out in 2012 when | became engaged to my ex-husband, second ex-husband. Q__Is that when your relationship ended when you segued out? A That's when | stopped working for him. We would keep in touch occas… | ||
| 9956 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 25 | Page 26 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Any other intermediaries besides other assistants? Ghislaine. Did you sign a nondisclosure agreement upon being hired as Mr. Epstein's assistant? Yes. What were the details of that agreement? | don't remember exactly. | don't have a copy, but | remember there being some sort of financial -- | would have to pay moneyif | broke it. | forget how much, but therewasa clause in there. Q Did the NDA reference any activity that you now know was-crimi… | ||
| 9957 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 26 | Page 27 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 had me like help her unpack her bags and showed me how to make Jeffrey's coffee and his breakfast and where to buy the newspapers in the morning. | was helping with the laundry, kind ofjust anything that kind of needed to be done to serve him basically. Q_ You mentioned in your opening statement that you were on call 24/7. A Uh-huh. Q_ Was that the case when you first started? A The entire time of my employment. | remember being at dinners wi… | ||
| 9958 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 27 | Page 28 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Ms. Ansari. Yes. Yassamin Ansari from Arizona's Third District. BY MS. BRIGNAC: Q__ Did your relationship with Ms. Maxwell change over the years? A The first several years, | worked out of her house in New York, and then she started-kind of slowly distancing herself from Jeffrey around the time he got arrested, probably around: 2005 timeframe. She was still around, you know, in charge of all the houses and the staff and, you know, in charge o… | ||
| 9959 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 28 | Page 29 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 water bottle. Q Did he ever yell at you? Yes. Did he yell at other staff? Yes. Was he inappropriate towards other staff? In what way? Q In the manner you've described so far, would he direct that towards other staff members as well? A | don't know. | didn't witness any -- well, he would.definitely yell and belittle and get i mad at them if they didn't do something to exact specifications. Q Would he apologize afterwards? A Never. He never apo… | ||
| 9960 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 29 | Page 30 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Q__ How did the abuse change over the years? A It was pretty consistent. It wasn't -- it had a period of slight reprieve when he was in jail for a short period of time, and then he got out on work release. It wasn't as bad in the years that followed his -- when he got out of work release. But it was still -- it still continued, just not to the frequency as much, the last few years. Q_ When is the first time he abused you? A | don't remember e… | ||
| 9961 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 30 | Page 31 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 A The SDNY, my attorneys, my husband for the first time, other -- one of my best friends. Q__Did anyone associated with Mr. Epstein abuse you? A Yes. Q Who? A Frederic Fekkai, also Philip Levine, Ghislaine obviously. | ||
| 9962 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 31 | Page 32 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 [11:07 a.m.] BY MS. BRIGNAC: Q_ When did Frederic Fekkai abuse you? A In Maui, when he asked me to come be in a hair show that didn't exist, and then he-had me staying in his hotel room. And | didn't have any money to get my own hotel room or fly. back, and he took advantage of me that night. Q__ Did Mr. Epstein facilitate that abuse? A No. Because then Frederic introduced me to Jeffrey. Q__ Did Mr. Epstein facilitate the abuse by Philip Levi… | ||
| 9963 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 32 | Page 33 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Q__ Did Philip Levine abuse any others? I'm not sure. Q_ When did you first learn that Mr. Epstein was not a Victoria's Secret scout? A When| went to his island. | learned he was a money manager. Q_ Were any others involved in the Victoria's Secret scheme? Well, | -- | had learned that one of his main clients was Les Wexner. So itdidn't seem too far-fetched then that he would have had some -- | mean, he had, like, a bigconnection with them. |… | ||
| 9964 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 33 | Page 34 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 his studio, and he did photos of me and then walked over to me with his pants down. Yeah. Q_ And who is Demarchelier? A He's a very famous fashion photographer in all the Vogues and Bazaars and very well-regarded in the fashion industry. Ms. Tolan. What year was that. Ms. Kellen. That was probably 2002. BY MS. BRIGNAC: Q_ Whois Philip Levine? A Who is he? He was a really good friend of Ghislaine's. He-worked -- he had a business, something to… | ||
| 9965 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 34 | Page 35 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 A I don't think so. Q_ Can you describe your interactions with Les Wexner? A | met him very briefly on a few occasions. | went with Jeffrey to his office in Ohio. | remember him and Les going into his office privately, and | was waiting outside with his assistant, and | think there was another worker there. And we were just talking. And he was like, "Ohyyou work for Jeffrey?" They're like, "We're terrified of him, like, he's very scary." | wa… | ||
| 9966 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 35 | Page 36 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 preface that by saying that | also had my -- like, nude photographs of me displayed around the houses. So anybody that would have been at the houses would have seen that, all the staff members and guests. So there was the occasion with Ghislaine, and then there were two other occasions with‘two other women, once on the island and once in New York. Q Can you tell me about those instances? A So the island was -- | don't know how else to call th… | ||
| 9967 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 36 | Page 37 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Q You mentioned in your opening statement that you did not feel like you could leave. Can you describe any threats that were made towards you that made you feel that way? A That, | think, is one of -- like, | think the most important thing to understand in all of this, that it wasn't so obvious, and it wasn't so, like, in your face. It was very covert, behind closed doors, the grooming process of, you know, being targeted as a vulnerable pers… | ||
| 9968 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 37 | Page 38 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Ms. Kellen. No. Ms. Hamm, | think we - we don't, though, as | mentioned at the beginning, want her to talk about other victims. She can talk about her own experience as a victim, but | -- she's not prepared to talk about any other victim. Mr. Higgins. To the gentlelady's point, | was careful to phrase my question within herown assessment. | will absolutely respect the parameters at this time. On the island, how much time did you spend on the … | ||
| 9969 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 38 | Page 39 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 his neck, the broken bones in his neck. | don't know how that would happen, kind of leaning forward from a bedpost with bedsheets. None of it -- none of it made sense to me. And just knowing him in general, | just -- | don't believe it. Mr. Higgins. So you believe he was murdered? Ms. Kellen. | do. Mr. Higgins. Thank you for answering my questions. Mr. Chairman, that's all have. Mr. Biggs. Thank you. And, again, thank you for your courage spe… | ||
| 9970 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 39 | Page 40 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 And | flew back to Hawaii, went back to my job at the hotel restaurant, and then probably, like 3 weeks to a month later, Ghislaine called me and asked if | could fly to Palm Beach that day to start training to work. Mr. Biggs. All right. And did did she ever end up working for Epstein or Maxwell? Ms. Kellen. No, not that I'm aware of. Mr. Biggs. And, to your knowledge, did she ever -- well, I'll just leave it there. appreciate the answers. M… | ||
| 9971 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 40 | Page 41 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Mr. Timmons. Have you met Richard Kahn? Ms. Kellen. Yes. Mr. Timmons. When did you meet him? Ms. Kellen, When he started working. | know he replaced -- there was a different accountant when| first started working, and he replaced him a few years into my employment. Mr. Timmons. How regular was your interaction with Kahn? Ms. Kellen, Again, pretty much the same thing. He worked in the Madison Avenue office. So it wasn't super regular. Mr. Timm… | ||
| 9972 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 41 | Page 42 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Mr. Timmons. Sorry. Darren Indyke. Ms. Kellen. Not officially, but he was -- Mr. Timmons. Did he create your LLC? Ms. Kellen. He did, yes. Mr. Timmons. So he did represent you. Has Richard Kahn ever done any work for you? Has he prepared your taxes? Ms. Kellen. | don't know. | did my own taxes in the beginning. Mr. Timmons. Did you ever submit any documents to Kahn's firm forthe purpose of review? Ms. Kellen. So | don't know if Kahn -- how mu… | ||
| 9973 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 42 | Page 43 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 have her own counsel, but | never understood why she needed her own attorney; like, of course, we can get rid of him." And so then they didn't pay his fees, and | couldn't afford to pay his fees, and then Darren arranged for me to have the same attorney as Jeffrey. Mr. Timmons. I'm out of time, but I'm going to have some followups. Thank you. Ms. Brignac. Thank you, Ms. Kellen. That will conclude the majority's first hour.of questioning. We'l… | ||
| 9974 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 43 | Page 44 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 public release of the transcript of this proceeding, the majority ensure that the names of any such survivors, as well as any information from which they could be identified, are fully redacted. And, with that, Ms. Kellen, you spoke during the previous hour about certain tasks that Jeffrey Epstein asked you to perform. | think it would be helpful if we could just get a fuller sense of the scope of your job duties when you were working for him… | ||
| 9975 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 44 | Page 45 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Is that right? Ms. Hamm, Can you just speak up a tiny bit -- Ms. Kellen. Sorry. Ms. Hamm, -- for those in the back? Mr. i. Sorry. Go ahead. Ms. Kellen. Yes. Mr. i. | have just been advised that another member has joined us,.and if that member could please identify themselves for the record. Ms. i. Hejust stepped out. Mr.ia. Sorry. i sy MR. Q__ Returning to the subject of digitizing photographs. A Yes. That was a project Ghislaine took on in t… | ||
| 9976 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 45 | Page 46 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Am | correct about that? A When you say based there -- Q You performed your work in those locations. A I've traveled with them everywhere. So | would have traveled to all of their homesrwith them. Q Just so we have a complete list beyond New York and Palm Beach, what.other homes did you spend time at? A New York, Palm Beach, the island, the ranch, Paris, London. |.think that was all of them. Q That's helpful. Thank you. Did the -- did your jo… | ||
| 9977 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 46 | Page 47 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Q_ Was that based on comments you heard or conversations you had with him? Comments he would make. Q_ Are you able to be specific about that? A He had a -- he would always belittle. | feel bad even saying it because it's demeaning. Q __ It's his words. He would use a word, | believe, "schvartze," which | think meant Black people. Q__Interms of his type, during the period of time when you worked for him, did you have an understanding that he h… | ||
| 9978 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 47 | Page 48 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Q__ Did he ever tell you that he liked teenage girls? A No. Ms. Hamm, We -- we really have to be careful here in terms of -- she can speak to her own experience with him, but she cannot speak to the victimization of other people. Mr. i. Well, again, | understand the distinction you're drawing. I'm carefully addressing my questions to Epstein's words and actions rather than the experience of his victims: sy MR. Q__ Again, this goes to the issu… | ||
| 9979 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 48 | Page 49 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 ur. a. I'm sorry. Ms. Kellen. That's okay. sy MR. What was, to your understanding Mr. Brunel's connection to Jeffrey Epstein? They were friends, and | know that Jeffrey invested in his modeling agency. Did Mr. Brunel, to your knowledge, recruit women or young girls to MC2?. | believe he was a model scout for the -- for the agency. Did he then make those women available to Jeffrey Epstein? A | know that he has introduced some of his models to … | ||
| 9980 | Sarah Kellen — House Oversight Committee 16 | 49 | Page 50 | Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Q Would you say you were with him for the majority of his trips? A Probably the majority. Q__Interms of the flights that you were on, did you ever witness sexual activity take place on any of those flights? A | was abused on his planes. Q__ Itis my understanding that there was a directory that contains the names.of young women or girls who provided massages to Jeffrey Epstein. Am | correct about that? A Ghislaine had a directory that she and … |