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| 9450 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 0 | Page 1 | COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, WASHINGTON, D.C. INTERVIEW OF: WILLIAM H. GATES, III Wednesday, June 10, 2026 Washington, D.C. The interview in the above matter was held in Room 2154, Rayburn House Office Building, commencing at 10:00 a.m. Present: Representatives Comer, Higgins, Timmons, Boebert, Crane, Perry, Burchett, McGuire, Burlison, Garcia, Krishnamoorthi, Lynch, Subramanyam, Walkinshaw, Crockett, Ansari, Randall, Khanna, Stansbury, Frost, and … | ||
| 9451 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 2 | Page 3 | , MINORITY STAFF DIRECTOR , MINORITY COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR , MINORITY RESEARCH ASSISTANT , MINORITY RESEARCH ANALYST , MINORITY INTERN , MINORITY SENIOR COUNSEL , MINORITY PRESS SECRETARY , MINORITY SENIOR COUNSEL , MINORITY FELLOW , MINORITY SENIOR ADVISOR , MINORITY LEGAL INTERN , MINORITY CHIEF COUNSEL For WILLIAM H. GATES, III: JOHN MORAN McGuireWoods TOM CLARE MEGAN MCGUIGGAN Clare Locke LLP ROB NABORS | ||
| 9452 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 3 | Page 4 | Mr. Spectre. This is a transcribed interview of Mr. William H. Gates, III, conducted by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform under the authority granted to it pursuant to House rule X. Accordingly, House rule X grants the Committee broad jurisdiction for the Committee to conduct investigations of any matter at any time. This interview was requested by Chairman James Comer as part of the Committee's investigation into the circumstances and subsequent investigations into the crim… | ||
| 9453 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 4 | Page 5 | Mr. Grant. Billy Grant, deputy chief counsel for investigations for Chairman Comer. Mr. Emmer. Jack Emmer, chief counsel for investigations for Chairman Comer. Mr. Ashworth. Daniel Ashworth, general counsel for Chairman Comer. Mr. Giachetti. Ryan Giachetti, chief counsel for Chairman Comer. Mr. Harnice. Will Harnice, professional staff member for Chairman Comer. Ms. Cathey. Hannah Cathey, professional staff member for Chairman Comer. Ms. Brignac. Brittany Brignac, senior counsel for Chairman Com… | ||
| 9454 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 5 | Page 6 | , legal intern, Ranking Member Garcia. , legal intern, Ranking Member Garcia. , fellow, Ranking Member Garcia. , senior counsel, Ranking Member Garcia. Mr. Spectre. Thank you. Starting with the majority, can the members of the Committee please introduce themselves? Chairman Comer. James Comer, chairman, House Oversight, Kentucky. Mr. Higgins. Clay Higgins, Louisiana. Mr. Crane. Eli Crane, Arizona. Mr. Perry. Scott Perry, Pennsylvania's 10th. Mr. Subramanyam. Minority Congressman Suhas Subramanya… | ||
| 9455 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 6 | Page 7 | concisely, and slowly. Also, the court reporter cannot record nonverbal answers, such as nodding or shaking your head, so it is important that you answer each question with an audible, verbal answer. Exhibits may be entered into the record. Majority exhibits will be identified numerically. Minority exhibits will be identified alphabetically. We want you to answer our questions in the most complete and truthful manner possible, so we will take our time. If you have any questions or do not fully u… | ||
| 9456 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 7 | Page 8 | make your statements accurate. You are required to provide all information that would make your response truthful. A deliberate failure to disclose information can constitute a false statement. Do you understand? Mr. Gates. I do. Mr. Spectre. Is there any reason you are unable to provide truthful testimony in today's interview? Mr. Gates. There's none. Mr. Spectre. Please note that if you wish to assert a privilege over any statement today, that assertion must comply with the rules of the Commit… | ||
| 9457 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 8 | Page 9 | Mr. Gates. Mr. Chairman, Ranking Member, members of the Committee, thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today. I am here to answer your questions about my interactions with Jeffrey Epstein and to help contribute to the Committee's important work. I support the release of all the Epstein files and sincerely hope that through your efforts and those of others advocating on their behalf, the survivors of Epstein's crimes, Epstein's crimes, can get the justice that they deserve. At the … | ||
| 9458 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 9 | Page 10 | significant contributions. I made it clear to Epstein from the outset that he would never play a role in any of the work or receive any compensation. In 2014, after Epstein brought together a group he described as potential donors, I realized that our prior discussions, which should have translated into meaningful philanthropic support, were a dead end. It was clear that no one in the group was interested enough to move forward. At that point, I concluded Epstein would never deliver on his promi… | ||
| 9459 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 10 | Page 11 | connections to reputable and powerful people to deflect scrutiny and attempt to rehabilitate his reputation. I was so focused on the possibility of raising funds for global health that I allowed that goal to override my better judgment. That is a sobering realization and it has reinforced for me the importance of being more attentive to how access and reputation can be manipulated by people acting in bad faith. In the work I do, reputation is the basis for developing partnerships that save lives… | ||
| 9460 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 11 | Page 12 | questions today. I want to start by very, very briefly discussing your background. I know, of course, you've had a very long and very, very successful career, but can you provide the Committee with a very brief summary of your career up until now? A Yeah. I was born in 1955. I went to high school in Seattle, graduated. I attended Harvard College for a few years, but did not complete a degree. I founded Microsoft in 1975. I stayed as CEO of Microsoft through the year 2000. I stayed as chief techn… | ||
| 9461 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 12 | Page 13 | Q So for the entirety of that time, you were -- your primary role was at the Gates Foundation. Is that right? A Yeah. I mean, I was doing the whole mix of things I do, but, yes, at all times since 2008 that's been my primary role. Q And you were not -- you didn't have a formal job at Microsoft during the time you knew Mr. Epstein. Is that right? A No. Q And at this point philanthropy is your full-time endeavor. Is that right? A That's right. For some of the energy innovation work, I use private … | ||
| 9462 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 13 | Page 14 | interested in having a dinner with him, and so that got scheduled. Q He said you might be interested in it. Did he say why you might be interested in it? A He probably gave me a brief description that -- about Epstein. Q Do you recall what that description entailed? A No, I do not. Q What did you discuss in your first interaction with Mr. Epstein? A You know, it was a dinner that I would have talked about what I was doing. He would have mentioned a number of scientists and people that he spent t… | ||
| 9463 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 14 | Page 15 | A I was aware that he had a criminal conviction. Q How were you aware of that? A I'm not sure. Either I looked it up or somebody told me. Q Did Dr. Nikolic tell you that? A I'm not sure. Q Do you recall knowing at that time what the criminal conviction was for? A I knew that it was of a sexual nature, but, no, I don't think I knew -- dug into the specifics, although I probably should have. Q Would you normally look into people's backgrounds before you met with them? Was this an uncommon way of h… | ||
| 9464 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 15 | Page 16 | A That's right. Q What were your first impressions of Mr. Epstein? A Well, he talked about a lot of scientists that he would talk to or business leaders he would talk to, and he made that sound fairly extensive, you know, across a wide range of topics. So he seemed like he was a bit of a dilettante. Q What do you mean by that? A Somebody who focuses time on a large number of subject areas and new people who are deeply engaged in those areas. Q So he made a good impression? A You know, he's kind … | ||
| 9465 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 16 | Page 17 | wasn't offering you tax or estate services of any kind? A No. There came a time later where he brought up that, you know, he could help on taxes, and I rather sternly rebuffed that effort. Q Sure. And we can get more into that a little bit later. So at this point, meeting him for the first time in 2011, did you understand him to already be wealthy at that point? A Well, certainly the -- you know, the -- just the house alone represented a significant amount of wealth. I'd never seen -- I don't th… | ||
| 9466 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 17 | Page 18 | philanthropic or otherwise? A No, they weren't social. I mean, there was one time at the end of a dinner, David Blaine came, and so that was a lighter thing. He's a magician. But the meetings were always about the world and, you know, what was going on. Obviously, when somebody like Larry Summers or Jes Staley is there, they're talking about what they see in the world, what they expect, so it's a wide ranging discussion. Q So did you ever socialize with Jeffrey Epstein? A Not -- no, I would not … | ||
| 9467 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 18 | Page 19 | women. Did you ever meet any of those people? A I was not introduced to them, but, you know, like, when you go to the New York thing, I think they open the door. Jeffrey -- Mr. Epstein had what appeared to be administrative assistants with him, and the extent of my contact with them was that, you know, they were there. As I would go into a meeting, they never attended any meeting that I was in. There were several occasions where Mr. Epstein asked me to be photographed with them at the end of the… | ||
| 9468 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 19 | Page 20 | Q We already discussed that you are aware that he had been convicted of a sex crime, but to be clear, at that time were you aware that he was a registered sex offender? A I was not. Q Do you recall when you first learned that he was a registered sex offender? A You know, my -- it's really 2018 when a Miami newspaper described the sort of extensive and horrific details of what he had done before his 2008, 2009 conviction that I became aware of the extent of his crimes, and I believe that's when I… | ||
| 9469 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 20 | Page 21 | Q And so you said you directed your staff to not reimburse Mr. Epstein for the payments he was requesting. They were, you said, reimbursements for expenses he was covering for Ms. Antonova. Is that right? A That's what he represented. Q Why would he want you to reimburse him for that? A You know, I viewed it as a tactic to reengage with me. I'd never asked him to do anything with respect to the person we're discussing, so I was rather surprised. That was the first time I knew explicitly that he'… | ||
| 9470 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 21 | Page 22 | Mr. Walkinshaw. James Walkinshaw, 11th District of Virginia. Mr. Spectre. Thank you, Mr. Gates. And, again, we'll come back to some of those topics. And my apologies, we're probably going to bounce around a little bit. We're going to try to have some sort of -- some semblance of chronology here. Mr. Emmer. We've had another member join. Can he please announce himself for the record? Mr. Burlison. Congressman Eric Burlison, Missouri. BY MR. SPECTRE: Q So we've already begun talking about Dr. Niko… | ||
| 9471 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 22 | Page 23 | So Dr. Nikolic, you know, had decided that he was moving on and going to venture capital. His actual exit was somewhat accelerated by the fact that I shared with my wife at the time that he was aware of affairs that I had, and she and I discussed that I should probably have him leave sooner rather than later. So that was a factor in terms of the timing of his exit. Q So, in summary, he was already -- kind of had, you know, one foot out the door to some degree, but it was accelerated by this disc… | ||
| 9472 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 23 | Page 24 | last direct communication I had with him was in those couple of years where he stayed on the advisory committee, and no communication since then. Q We've already discussed Mr. Nikolic -- Dr. Nikolic, of course, introduced you to Mr. Epstein. So, in your words, can you characterize Dr. Nikolic's relationship with Mr. Epstein or at least your understanding of their relationship? A Well, during the time I knew Epstein, I thought it was a -- just he had met him before I had and that he was kind of o… | ||
| 9473 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 24 | Page 25 | I will give you a second to look at it, but I will note that I'll be reading much of or all of it into the record, so you don't need to read the entire thing. The first question is, have you seen these emails before? A Yeah, okay. I mean, I may have seen these when they came in out January, but not before that. Q So you don't recall ever seeing these emails prior to the Epstein Files Transparency Act released by the DOJ? A I did not. Q In the first email, so the email at the bottom of the page, … | ||
| 9474 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 25 | Page 26 | told Boris -- Dr. Nikolic, sorry -- that I'd shared the information about the two affairs, and he may have thought, you know, that meant our marriage was at risk. It was certainly a deeply troubling thing for my wife, but the -- at this time there was not a -- any discussion of divorce. Q It seems in this draft that's written from Dr. Nikolic's perspective that he may have believed that Melinda was the one who wanted him to leave his job, and I think you characterized it earlier as kind of a bac… | ||
| 9475 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 26 | Page 27 | Q So Dr. Nikolic and Mr. Epstein are communicating about something that they might send to you, and it sounds like they didn't. Is that right? A I never received anything like that. Q In the second email, so the middle email that Dr. Nikolic writes back to Mr. Epstein at 12:12 on June 16th, 2013, Dr. Nikolic seems to say, "this is great. My only worry is whether I should send him now or tell him when I see him on Monday. He is still trying to make it work with Melinda. He's having next round of … | ||
| 9476 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 27 | Page 28 | A Well, he wasn't a lawyer, so I'm not sure how a nonlawyer becomes someone's legal representative. Eventually, Dr. Nikolic did communicate to me that he was involving Epstein in the discussion of the -- of Dr. Nikolic's exit, and he -- I forget exactly, but he sent -- he told me that he was involving Epstein. Q Again, you didn't receive this email, but it seems what they're trying to get across to you is that, while you're correct that Jeffrey Epstein was not, in fact, a lawyer, they are repres… | ||
| 9477 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 28 | Page 29 | discussions. [Gates Majority Exhibit No. 2 was marked for identification.] BY MR. SPECTRE: Q Okay. Thank you. I will now enter into the record majority exhibit 2, which is an email from Mr. Epstein to himself on July 18th, 2013. This is marked as Bates number EFTA01966988. And I'll note for the record that there are a few similar versions of these emails throughout the files, I think, with things being forwarded along. I'll be referencing this version and asking you questions about it. Some of t… | ||
| 9478 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 29 | Page 30 | Q Well, can we agree that this is not the perspective of Jeffrey Epstein? It's clearly written from the perspective of somebody else. Is that fair? A You're asking me to speculate on this? Q So I will read it into the record then. It is, again, sent Thursday, July 18th, 2013, at 12:39, from Jeffrey Epstein to himself. However, the email reads, quote, "I have decided to resign my position effective immediately with BG3 and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. I have not come to this decision qu… | ||
| 9479 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 30 | Page 31 | [11:00 a.m.] BY MR. SPECTRE: Q So again, I understand you did not receive this email, so I'll just begin to discuss the facts in the email. I've already asked you this, I asked you if you had been considering a divorce with Melinda in 2013. I'll ask it a different way, were you having a marital dispute of some kind with your then wife Melinda French Gates. A Well, certainly the fact that I told Melinda during this time frame about the two affairs, that was very distressing to her, but at that ti… | ||
| 9480 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 31 | Page 32 | A Right. And, you know, that was part of my telling him that his employment was not going to continue. Q So is it possible, then, that Dr. Nikolic, while you didn't tell him that you were -- you didn't say you were considering a divorce, as you said, you weren't, but is it possible that Dr. Nikolic read into what you were telling him to believe that Melinda was the reason he was being let go and that he needed to fix things with you. Is that fair? A Well, it's not clear to me that Dr. Nikolic ev… | ||
| 9481 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 32 | Page 33 | A That's correct. Q Did he know the name of the woman at the time? A At some point I mentioned the name, yes. Q Did you ever ask Dr. Nikolic to do anything that was potentially illegal? A No. Q Did Dr. Nikolic ever assist you in acquiring drugs? A No. Q Did you ever ask him to acquire you drugs? A No. Q Was Dr. Nikolic a medical doctor? A I think he was a research doctor. Q Did he have prescribing authority, do you know? A I don't understand that. Q To be clear, you don't understand the question… | ||
| 9482 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 33 | Page 34 | A Her name is Karima Nigmatulina. Mr. Moran. And I'll just say as we go forward, you know, as you've seen, Mr. Gates is here addressing obviously very sensitive topics with the committee as they relate to Jeffrey Epstein. We know there's also a lot of public interest in the details of these private affairs that aren't pertinent to Jeffrey Epstein who had no involvement in those other than learning about them after the fact. And so, Mr. Gates will probably seek to decline to divulge details that … | ||
| 9483 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 34 | Page 35 | A None with any connection to Epstein that he became aware of, or that had any connection to him. Q How do you know that? A I guess I'll never know that because he's dead. Q So that's the reason I'm asking about these other ones is you've already testified today that you didn't know that these two women did have any affiliation with Jeffrey Epstein, and many of these details we've only since learned from the Department of Justice's release. So I do think additional context about any other extra … | ||
| 9484 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 35 | Page 36 | Q Did you ever communicate to Dr. Nikolic that you were worried that you might? A It's possible I said something like that, which later turned into the lie that I actually had an STD. Q Do you recall a specific discussion? A I do not. Q But it's possible that you did? A Yes. Q And again, for the record, you did not ask Dr. Nikolic in his capacity as a doctor, or in any other capacity, to acquire drugs, antibiotics of any kind? A No. He was not a prescribing doctor. Q Okay. Mr. Higgins, I underst… | ||
| 9485 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 36 | Page 37 | conspired or met with Epstein prior to your dinner meeting in 2011 and said, I think maybe I can get, I can get Bill in front of you and maybe we can draw him in? Mr. Gates. I don't believe that happened. Mr. Higgins. You don't believe that happened. Mr. Gates. No, I don't think Dr. Nikolic was part of the broad set of things that you described. Mr. Higgins. Okay. Thank you. That's my only question. Mr. Emmer. We've had another member join. Can he please announce himself for the record? Mr. McGu… | ||
| 9486 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 37 | Page 38 | A That was the nuclear scientist. Q How did Dr. Nikolic come to learn of the bridge player? A There was a time after I finished a dinner in California where the bridge player was meeting me, and because I was delayed, Dr. Nikolic met her and stood with her, was with her until I arrived. Q So once Dr. Nikolic had become aware of each of these two affairs, was this something -- what was the situation between the two of you? Was it the kind of thing where you knew he knew, and he knew that you knew… | ||
| 9487 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 38 | Page 39 | emails to himself. And as we see from the email release, the only specific things he refers to are the affair with the nuclear scientist, and the affair with the bridge player. And so I think if in some weird way he discovered anything negative to say about me, we would have seen that in the emails that he sent to himself. Mr. Spectre. Thank you very much. We can go off the record. Mr. Clare. If I could, before we do that, if I could just offer one thing. Mr. Spectre. Sure. Mr. Clare. For the co… | ||
| 9488 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 39 | Page 40 | A Good morning. Q My name is , I am an attorney for the minority, and I will be asking most of our questions today. In the course of doing so, I'm likely going to touch on some of the issues that my majority colleagues covered with you in the previous round. In doing so, I don't want to make you repeat yourself, I just want to make sure that we have a clear record at the end of this proceeding. Mr. Garcia. Can you speak into the microphone? Mr. . Sure. Is this better? BY MR. : Q Okay. Apologies.… | ||
| 9489 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 40 | Page 41 | Q Did you become aware at some point that Mr. Sinofsky had a relationship with Jeffrey Epstein? A No. Q Did you ever become aware of Jeffrey Epstein providing professional services of any kind to Mr. Sinofsky? A Through the press this year. Q Not prior to that? A Not prior. Q Did Mr. Sinofsky ever mention anything to you about Jeffrey Epstein's proclivity for young women, or teenage girls? A We never -- the name Epstein ever came up in any conversation I had with Mr. Sinofsky. Q And as we unders… | ||
| 9490 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 41 | Page 42 | A Dr. Walker worked at the Gates Foundation for a period, then she worked for the World Bank for a period. She's also an advanced brain surgeon. Q When did you first meet Dr. Walker? A Would have been when she was at the Gates Foundation. Q And when did she start working at the Gates Foundation? A I'm not sure. 2007. Something like that. I'm not sure. Q Were you aware at the time she started work at the Gates Foundation that she had a prior relationship with Jeffrey Epstein? A No, although she d… | ||
| 9491 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 42 | Page 43 | junior staffers. Larry will not join and is not aware of other meetings. But he's starting to really get annoying. Are there any signals I can send or words I can use to let him and BG know I'm not messing around? Any words I can use w Larry directly or w him and BG." And right below we understand to be Jeffrey Epstein's response, "With bg, all you would have to say, is you should know that I've told Jeffrey everything -- everything." Understanding that you were not a participant in this convers… | ||
| 9492 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 43 | Page 44 | Q No further questions on this document. A Okay. Q Dr. Walker has reportedly claimed that Jeffrey Epstein introduced her to two professional contacts who sexually propositioned her. Are you familiar with Dr. Walker's claim? A Not at all. Q Did Dr. Walker ever warn you about Jeffrey Epstein? A Certainly not during the time I knew Mr. Epstein. Q The Wall Street Journal, I'll represent, reported that in August of 2014 Dr. Walker sent you what appeared to be a warning about Epstein stating that you … | ||
| 9493 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 44 | Page 45 | to by situation? A What was Epstein's thing, how did he make money, what was his -- what was he trying to do? To this day, I don't find a fully satisfactory explanation of, you know, how he got his wealth, and a variety of things. Q You spoke in some detail during the previous round about your various meetings with Jeffrey Epstein between 2011 and 2014. If I could, I would like to just walk through some of those in particular with you in a bit more detail using some documents that we have obtain… | ||
| 9494 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 45 | Page 46 | Q And outside of the dinner, do you recall anyone else being present? A Yes. That's the time when Eva Dubin and her daughter dropped by after the dinner. Q I understand from your testimony in the previous rounds that Jeffrey Epstein extended an invitation for you to visit his island, Little Saint James. Is that correct? A I think on several occasions he did. Q And you never accepted that invitation? A I never did. Q And why was that? A It wasn't of interest to me. Q Was there something in partic… | ||
| 9495 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 46 | Page 47 | Q And can you tell us respectively who was in attendance at those two dinners? A Maybe I should look at a document to -- [Discussion off the record.] Mr. Gates. Okay. Sorry. Okay. Yeah, let me correct what I said. One of the 2012 meetings was at the New York City Four Seasons, and the other, during the General Assembly week, was at his residence. BY MR. : Q And refreshing your recollection based on the chronology you just looked at? A That's right. Q Can we start with the Four Seasons meeting, w… | ||
| 9496 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 47 | Page 48 | A Well, you know, it was generally about the World. One of those men had been the number two at the United Nations, I think under Kofi Annan, and the other gentleman I think had been a Prime Minister of Norway, and various other political-type things. So the dinner would have discussed, you know, their views of the World. You know, I would have talked about my Foundation work, including things like Polio eradication. It was, you know, the first time that I met either of those two men. Q The Four… | ||
| 9497 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 48 | Page 49 | not one in which you are a participant. A It looks like I may have had a Skype call with him at this time. Q During 2013? A Yes. Q Do you recall the subject of that Skype call? A I know in 2013, his representation that he could raise billions, or tens of billions for global health became a significant subject of discussion. Mr. . Was there anyone else on that call? Mr. Gates. I'm not sure. BY MR. Q And that call took place during a period of time where you still thought that Mr. Epstein might pl… | ||
| 9498 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 49 | Page 50 | BY MR. : Q 2013. A That's funny because there was a Skype call in 2014 on February 27th, so I apologize. That confused me. No, it looks like there was a meeting at the Four Seasons on the 27th, and then a dinner later that night at Epstein's residence in New York City. Sorry. Q No problem. I appreciate the clarification. I'll walk through those in a moment. Just for clarity of the record, the Skype call that we discussed a few minutes ago, that took place during February of 2014? A That's right.… | ||
| 9499 | Bill Gates — House Oversight Committee 12 | 50 | Page 51 | for the court reporter, , to arrive JFK by Virgin Atlantic 3, and at the end of the entry it says, Four Seasons to meet up with you, referring to Epstein, at 2:00 p.m. [Discussion off the record.] Mr. Gates. Okay. Yeah. Go ahead. BY MR. : Q Do you recall an individual by that name attending the Four Seasons meeting? A No. Q And then the 10:15 p.m. meeting reflected in this calendar, that, if I understand correctly, took place at Mr. Gates' residence? A No. Q I'm sorry. Mr. Epstein's residence. A… |