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philanthropic or otherwise? A No, they weren't social. I mean, there was one time at the end of a dinner, David Blaine came, and so that was a lighter thing. He's a magician. But the meetings were always about the world and, you know, what was going on. Obviously, when somebody like Larry Summers or Jes Staley is there, they're talking about what they see in the world, what they expect, so it's a wide ranging discussion. Q So did you ever socialize with Jeffrey Epstein? A Not -- no, I would not say I was socializing with him. I was at a dinner where a wide range of serious topics came up. When he, for example, invited me to come to his island, that would have been socializing, and that -- I didn't do that. You know, one time in Paris he asked me to go to a show and I said that would not be a good idea. I chose not to do that. Q So he did invite you to a couple of social functions and you just rejected them? A He did many things to try and deepen the relationship, including the various invitations. Q Did you ever discuss sexual behavior of any kind with Jeffrey Epstein? A No. Q Did you ever witness Jeffrey Epstein engaging in sexual contact of any kind? A No. Q Did you ever witness Epstein receive a massage from a young woman or a girl? A No. Q Were there often young women or girls at the places where you would meet with Epstein? A No. The only time anyone who was I'd call a girl was around was, after that first dinner, Eva Dubin came and she had her daughter with her. Other than that, there were no young women at any of the times I saw Epstein. Q So none of his -- a number of Epstein's employees, we understand, were younger