FD•302 (Rev. 5440) 50D-NY-3027571 Serial 603 -1 of 1- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION mu:amine 05/19/2021 , date of birth was given an introductory meet with the case team over video conference. Present via video was Assistant United States Attorneys and along wit The above listed individuals met over video conference with to introduce her to the team that was investigating the captioned case. expressed that she knew JEFFREY EPSTEIN and GHISLAINE MAXWELL from the time she was 14 years old to 20 years old. xpressed that she would have had no problem confronting EPSTEIN as things with him more black and white. was conflicted when it came to MAXWELL, saying things with her were not so black and white as MAXWELL took on more of a maternal figure role. was struggling with the idea that MAXWELL "did this to a nefarious end". felt that it was complicated because she saw MAXWELL as EPSTEIN'S prime victim. believed EPSTEIN was a sociopath who could not feel. EPSTEIN would get people who were moldable. felt MAXWELL was moldable because of her father. advised this was the story she told herself to "maybe be ok with it" and how it happened. MAXWELL threatened so that she would do things. advised she was lucky because she got out of things. a dvised that MAXWELL was "maybe like having an abusive parent" in that she felt protective of MAXWELL because was conditioned to think like that. wanted to think about whether she wanted to give a detailed interview at a future date. ImodisidWom 03/30/2021 Hog SOD -NY -3027571 Date dialled 03/30/2021 by This document contains neither recommendations nor conclmions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and k finned to your agency; it and its contents are not W be &gamed own& your agency. New York, New York, United States (, Other (Virtual)) at 3501.500-001 Page 1 of 1 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00096449 EFTA01250184