From: Deepak Chopra To: Jeff Epstein <jeevacation®gmail.com> Subject: Fwd: We are a universe claim Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 09:03:29 +0000 ~la Dee ak Chopra Super Genes: Unlock the Astonishing Power of Your DNA for Optimum Health and Wellbeing Begin forwarded message: From: Menas Kafatos Date: August 10, 2016 at 3:22:10 AM EDT To: Wolfgang Baer Cc: Deepak Chopra Subject: Re: We are a universe claim Wolfgang: > , Carolyn Rangel < >, menas By definition a postulate in mathematics is "A statement, also known as an axiom, which is taken to be true without proof'. So the postulate that we are "the" (not "a") universe is unprovable. But so is the (postulate) that there is an external world, independent of observation. The latter is assumed to be self-evident or something by the majority of scientists (sort of God-given, although they would rarely use those words). These statements (postulates) are ontologically given but most scientists shy away from getting close to ontology because (foolishly I may add) consider philosophy a worthless pursuit. So they take on a metaphysical assumption (axiom-postulate) without even knowing they are doing that. All this was laid out in great detail in the Conscious Universe (Springer-Verlag, 1991 and 2000). But mother Nature in an interesting irony, turned the tables on us: We now know from QM and particularly the refutation of hidden variables, the refutation of local realism, shown with high accuracy in several quantum experiments, that this is not the case. So the irony is that ontology or metaphysics has physical consequences that can be tested in the physics. You might say that why should it not be the case with the postulate of the conscious universe? I would actually prefer to say that fundamental Consciousness is the underlying reality. Because, EFTA00821866