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was marked for identification.] BY MR. : Q Let's introduce as minority exhibit B an email exchange between you and Mr. Epstein from September 19th, 2014. In it, Mr. Epstein wrote, quote, "girls?, careful, I will renew an old habit." Page 4. A Yes. I see it. Q We've already established that you were aware of the allegation against Mr. Epstein because you had read the Thacker letter at this point. Did you consider whether Mr. Epstein was referring to his past sex crimes involving young girls when he said, "girls?, careful, I will renew an old habit"? A Okay. First of all, I don't know whether I had read the Thacker letter in September of 2014. I had, you know -- I'd only met with Mr. Epstein, I think, twice at that point. So just to put that in characterization -- in the proper context. But I remember this email very -- notwithstanding it was 12 years ago, I remember this email very specifically. And during either the first or the second meeting that I had with Epstein, in the course of the conversation, and it may have actually been in reference to -- reference to me, he referred to women as girls. Okay? And I said to him, Don't refer to women as girls. Unfortunately, I'm now 55 years old, and I've been, you know, a practicing lawyer for a long time, and I have been referred to as a girl by many men in many contexts. And I said, Don't do that. And so I write "Most girls do not have to worry about that crap." I'm basically, in my email, referring back to that conversation. Okay? Like, "Hey, knucklehead." I'm referring to myself here. "Most girls don't have to worry about this crap." Then he responds, "girls, question mark, careful, I will renew an old habit." Q So it was something of an inside joke between the two of you? A About language.