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Q -- at least on one occasion. Is that right? A Under the law, a minor -- under State law, a minor cannot consent to prostitution. Yes. I agree with you entirely. Q You mentioned this letter from a lawyer, Thacker, that you refer to a lot. A Yes. Q We will talk about that later. But that letter references massage, I don't know, 18 times. It recounts allegation after allegation of how Mr. Epstein used massage to entice victims. A Yes. Q So that's more than just Jeffrey Epstein paying for sex one time in 2007, right? A Oh, I have never suggested that I believed he had paid for sex for one time. Q So then were you -- so what were you referring to? Were you referring to the full range of his alleged conduct that you were aware of? A This was an offhand remark -- I certainly wasn't referring to the full range of his conduct, you know, in a one-sentence, offhand joke that, as I've said to you sitting here today, was in very poor taste. Q Did you think one of the issues here -- he bought you this massage. This was not the first or last massage that he had bought you, nor was it the only time you discussed massages with him. So given what you knew then, why did you accept any massages from Jeffrey Epstein -- A Okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Q -- and why were you joking about what he did with them? A He gave me as a gift, okay, so -- he gave me as a gift a half day at the spa at The Peninsula Hotel in New York City. I think I also got a facial that day. I don't remember. But in any event, when I go to the spa -- which I have gone to many, many, many times over the course of my life, and I have gone to spa resorts. A lot of women go to spas. And in 99 percent of those cases, I've paid for my own massage. As a gift, he gave me a half day at the Peninsula spa, and I got a massage.