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A Yes. I said, "Best massage ever but not your kind of massage." Q And he replied, "Shame." A Yes. Q By February 2016, were you aware that Mr. Epstein had used massage appointments to entrap the girls and women he victimized? A What I understood -- you know, as I stated this morning, I certainly knew that he had pled guilty to two prostitution-related offenses and that those -- that those involved -- that conduct involved sexualized massages. What I understood about the nature and scope of that conduct was that the vast majority of the women who had engaged in this activity with Mr. Epstein were over the age of 18, that some small number had turned out to be under the age of 18 but he had believed them to be over the age of 18. So -- Q Let's pause for a second. A Sure. Mr. Lynch. I'm sorry. I just want to understand, are we going to see the exhibits? Ms. Crockett. I was just going to ask, do you mind speaking up just a little bit? Ms. Ruemmler. Oh, sure. Ms. Crockett. You kind of faded off towards the end of your last statement. Ms. Ruemmler. Okay. No problem. Absolutely. Mr. . We'll go back on the record. Ms. Ruemmler. Okay. So as I was saying, I was certainly aware that he had pled guilty to prostitution-related offenses that involved sexualized massages. I knew that -- he was open to me -- with me about it, or so I believed, about the nature of his conduct, as I discussed at some length this morning. So what I was making here was an offhanded joke that, certainly sitting here in 2026, is in