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[11:08 a.m.] BY MR. GRANT: Q And did you believe his story? A I believed it, not because that's what he told me; I believed it because, based on my experience as a Federal prosecutor, I knew that the State -- the State Attorney's Office in Florida, and in particular the chief of the Sex Crimes Division there, had led the investigation of Epstein, and that the conclusion of that investigation was a single -- an indictment for a single count of solicitation of prostitution, and that, then, the Federal Government, the U.S. Attorney's Office in Miami, which based on my experience -- my long experience in the department and in particular my service as the principal associate deputy attorney general, the Miami office reputationally was a very aggressive office. And, in fact, particularly during the period of time that I was working on the Enron investigation, Main Justice was very frequently recruiting people from Miami to come up to Main Justice because it was viewed as, like, you know, the hard charging office. And I understood that they had investigated the case, you know, for a lengthy period of time with all of the tools available to prosecutors, you know, search warrants, I didn't know whether they used wire taps or whatever. But, you know, that -- and the result of that investigation, the outcome of that investigation was a decision not to prosecute Epstein and to, you know, require him to enter into a nonprosecution agreement. And then he told me, which I, you know, knew through factual sources -- I mean, through the record in the matter, that he had received an 18-month sentence. He received 12 months on one count, 6 months on another count. He had served 13 months of that sentence, and most of that 13 months, it had actually been served on work release. So what he told me about the case was consistent with the outcome. And then in addition -- I should say this. What he told me about his conduct in the case, and the key issue in my mind being, did this guy intentionally target minors for, you know, for commercial