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And the third term I mentioned to you was "Uncle Jeffrey." A Yes. So Mr. Epstein was -- as I said a few minutes ago, he was extremely arrogant. He was a mansplainer. He was pushy. He was avuncular. And as a joke and, frankly, to poke fun of those qualities -- you know, again, at this point in time -- you know, it's 10 years ago, 12 years ago -- I'm in my, you know, early 40s, I'm a relatively accomplished professional, okay? And he's constantly offering me all sorts of unsolicited advice, you know, et cetera, and I -- about -- by the way, about a whole host of things that even, frankly, he didn't really know much about. That didn't stop him from offering his opinions. And, in that context -- and I think it was in response to, you know, again, something that he had sent me, you know, as a gift -- that I, sort of, in a teasing way, referred to him, you know, as "Uncle Jeffrey," in a way to not be -- to sort of call him out for the way that he could be quite patronizing as a -- you know, we all -- we all sometimes have relatives like that. And that's what -- that's what I meant. Q And then did Mr. Epstein ever meet any of your family members? A No. Q Are you aware of Mr. Epstein having any children of his own? A Not that I was aware of. Ms. Tolan. Apart from your in-person meetings with Mr. Epstein that you mentioned, did you ever socialize with him in any other context? Ms. Ruemmler. No. BY MR. GRANT: Q And you mentioned that the relationship ended in July of 2019? A Yes. Q When was the last time you communicated with Mr. Epstein?