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Was your relationship ever romantic with Mr. Epstein? A Absolutely not. Q Did you ever have a sexual relationship with Mr. Epstein? A Absolutely not. Q If there wasn't a romantic relationship, why did you refer to Mr. Epstein in these terms? A Well, we can take them one by one, if you would like. Q Okay. A And there's -- Q So the first one I mentioned was "sweetie." A Yeah. So the context I remember -- there's an email in which I call him "sweetie." The context of that was that he sent me an email comparing his prior criminal conduct to the conduct that had been alleged publicly right around that time against Harvey Weinstein. And he said something to the effect of, "My conduct was money in exchange for sex. This guy was dangling jobs over people and, you know, basically pretending as if" -- again, this is in reference to -- I'm paraphrasing, but this is what I understood him to be saying in his not-very-grammatically-correct email to me, okay? That "Harvey Weinstein -- like, what's being said about him is really bad, because these are women who are coming forward and saying he was sort of dangling these opportunities to be in movies, and young actresses, and he was deceptive. It was this element of, like, deceptiveness. And he was using his power within the movie industry to sort of coerce or assault -- you know, assault women. But, by contrast, all I did was pay for sex. And this was just a strictly commercial transaction, and everybody was consenting. And so what I did wasn't so bad." And so I responded, and I said in a very -- in a way that was designed to tell someone something that they didn't want to hear, in a patronizing way -- the court reporter is not going to get