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BY MR. GRANT: Q Ms. Ruemmler, when did you first meet Jeffrey Epstein? A I met him in July of 2014 when he cold-called Latham & Watkins and asked to speak to me. Q And prior to that cold call, you had no other interactions? A None. Q No in-person meetings? A No. I had not -- I didn't know who he was prior to receiving the message that this person named Jeffrey Epstein had called and asked for me to return his call relating to a potential legal matter. Q And, at this time, were you aware of any of his previous legal troubles? A At that time, no. Q And what was the reason for this cold call? A What he said -- so I returned the call. What he said was that he was working with Bill Gates to put together a large donor-advised fund that would allow people to pool their resources for philanthropy and therefore be -- you know, sort of, potentially have a greater impact. This was an idea that he told me he had been working on with Mr. Gates and that there were a number of legal issues that would be involved. There would be tax issues and securities issues; there would be the establishment of the fund. And while I didn't have particular expertise in, you know, these particular legal subjects, what he said was, "I understand that you are a, you know, excellent generalist lawyer, and we need someone to quarterback these various legal issues that will come into play." Q And are you aware of somebody referring him to you? A I didn't know that at the -- no, I didn't know why he was reaching out to me. Q Have you subsequently learned if someone referred him to you?