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many fields. And as I said, if you want to call that social, I guess that would be social. When he called and said, "Would you like to meet this interesting person?" or during U.N. Week where dozens of people from all over the world would come to his townhouse and say, "Would you like to join us? You'll find these people interesting," I did. So, from that point of view, I guess you could say I socialized because I met scientists through him. I met people involved in government through him and business, because I went over and joined him for a drink at his townhouse when they were there. So, from that point of view, I would say it was dual. One, it was professional, and two, I enjoyed taking advantage of all the network of interesting people he knew. Q What is the Debra and Leon Black Family Foundation? A I'm not sure. I think it was something set up early. There have been many -- there has been an evolution of a lot of names. We have a few billion dollars today that we're involved with, with philanthropy. But it started off smaller. But we've always been interested in philanthropic work. We wanted to get our children involved in that also. And so I think -- and I don't want to speculate exactly what that was, but I think it was one of many entities, if you will, which was involved for our family for the trust to get involved in philanthropic activities. Q Let me ask, then -- A But I'm speculating a little bit because I'm not sure. Q Let me ask, then, which entity did you and your wife appoint Mr. Epstein to the board of directors of in 1997? A I think that was the name of it. Q Why did you place Mr. Epstein on the board in 1997?