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actually learn about Mr. Epstein and his past and what he did for a living? Did that take a couple of years? Did it take a few months? When would that have -- ballpark range? Mr. Black. I don't remember. I learned that he had been a math teacher. I learned -- at Dalton School. I learned that he was very friendly with Ace Greenberg and Jimmy Cayne, who were the chairs and president of Bear Stearns, and that he had worked at Bear Stearns and therefore he had some financial sophistication. I learned that they were very friendly with him and liked him. And then, over time, I also learned that he had relationships with people in government. He was good friends with Ehud Barak, who had been the former Prime Minister of Israel. And, actually, I hired Ehud Barak as a consultant for Apollo for 2 years, retained him to handle global consultancy. So I would say I met him, really, through Epstein. I learned that he was good friends with Larry Summers, who had been the Treasury Secretary. He had relationships, as I mentioned in the opening statement, with George Mitchell, with Bill Richardson. He seemed to be very knowledgeable more and more about estate planning. And as I said, I never retained him until 18 years after I had met him. So there was a lot of meetings that I had in the interim before I did. I mean -- BY MS. BRIGNAC: Q So, Mr. Black -- A Yeah? Q -- it sounds like you understood he was well connected. Did you understand him to be wealthy? A I understood him to be an adviser to wealthy families. I knew he had