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A No, not that I can recall. He was an absolutely new person that a friend of mine said he was friends with and was interesting, period. Q Did you do any background research before meeting him? A I didn't know I was going to meet him, as I told you, so how could I have done background research? Q What were your first impressions of him? A Smart. Irreverent. That's all. Q What did you understand his job to be? A I didn't understand his job to be. I understood that he was somebody that Skip was introducing me to. I mean, if somebody joined you for dinner and they brought along a friend or -- it wasn't that I had any understanding of him at the time. Q Did you ever discover what his job was before seeking advice from him? A Well, that's a different question, because I asked advice years later, and during that period, I did learn a lot more about him. As I read in my opening statement, I learned that he was involved with a lot of prestigious institutions. As I said in the opening statement, I was impressed that he was on the board of Rockefeller University, put on that board by David Rockefeller, who was extremely esteemed and respected, and that institution was extremely esteemed and respected. He was also on the Council on Foreign Relations. He was also on the Trilateral Commission. I learned over time that he had a pretty interesting network. I also learned that he was very smart about tax and estate matters in terms of -- yeah. Mr. Grant. And, obviously, you came to learn this stuff about Mr. Epstein. So you met him at this lunch in 1995, round figures. So when did you begin to