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9233
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Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell established guardrails. They made it very clear to me that I was a replaceable employee. Maxwell and Epstein told me that I was never to associate with their friends or contacts, or I would be fired. The people I spoke with in my job were their friends and colleagues -- not mine. Their business was none of my business -- and not to forget it. If I messed up an appointment, I could be fired. Frequently, Mr. Epstein yelled at me to the point of tears. When I made an error with an appointment, he screamed that I ruined his day and that the time lost could never be replaced. I recall that, weeks after I was hired, one of Mr. Epstein's contacts invited me to attend a party with my husband in New York City. The next workday, Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell, who were not at the party, somehow found out that I had attended, and they torched me. They told me I had crossed a line into his social life, and I would be fired. Instead, Mr. Epstein put me on probation. He ordered me to completely separate myself from his personal world. In hindsight, I wish he had fired me. Since that time 25 years ago, I have never socialized with Mr. Epstein or Ms. Maxwell. I have never been on his airplane. I have never been to one of his parties. I never visited him in jail after he was convicted in 2008 or after he was arrested in 2019. I never accompanied him to Little Saint James or to Zorro Ranch or to his Palm Beach residence. In fact, in my 18 years as his secretary, I've been to Little Saint James three times: once with my husband and twice for work to view construction projects. These visits were during the day and lasted only a couple of hours. I stayed at his Paris guest apartment once with my husband. Mr. Epstein was not there. From 2001 to 2009, I worked exclusively at the Helmsley Palace. When you entered the reception area, my office was located in the rear of the suite, and I could not see who entered or exited. Visitors were able to enter and leave Mr. Epstein's office through a separate entrance