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where you were pulling the statement from. Thank you. . We can't hear back here. Secretary Lutnick. I was just speculating for a podcast. I had no personal information. I was just speculating for a podcast. BY MR. EMMER: Q For the record, sir, did Jeffrey Epstein ever inform or represent to you that he was part of any intelligence service of any nation, including the United States? A No. Q So how would you characterize your relationship with Mr. Epstein? A I had no personal or professional relationship with him. I had two interactions in person that were meaningless and inconsequential. I would say I had no relationship with him. Q How often did you interact with Epstein in a personal capacity? A I met him once in 2005. I had two meaningless and inconsequential other personal interactions. And I tried to think about this as many times as I can, and I cannot think of any others, nor do the documents show any others. Q Besides the in-person interactions, which, again, we'll talk about more specifically later, did you email, have phone calls with Mr. Epstein? A I do not recall ever having a phone call with Mr. Epstein, and I think I had one set of email interactions with Mr. Epstein personally that went -- meaning four were written by me to him, but in one -- effectively one conversation. I mean, I said A; he responded B; I wrote C; he responded D. And I think there were a total of four in one day once. Q For the record, you've mentioned the visit to the island, the tour of the townhome. Did you ever visit Epstein's Palm Beach home? A No.