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A No. And I would've noticed them, so, no. Q So I want to talk more about your appearance on the Pod Force One podcast and the statements that you made, but first, generally, how did this appearance come about? A I don't know offhand. I think my comms -- you know, it comes from your communications director, sets it up. I don't know. Q And the topic of Jeffrey Epstein was the first topic during this appearance. Did you know that you would be discussing Jeffrey Epstein when you agreed to go on this podcast? A No. I thought I was going on to talk about September 11th. Q So we talked about the statements that you made after seeing the massage table -- that guy's gross, disgusting, you'll never be in the room with him again, and you said it was just a one-and-done. Is that a fair characterization of your statements? A No, I think the right way to think about it is my wife and I discussed that I would not be in the room with him for professional, philanthropic, or social reasons, meaning, don't form -- the simplest way to say it is "don't form a personal or professional relationship with him; avoid establishing one because he has no boundaries," right? He said something inappropriate; just avoid him. And I did. So that was the discussion with my wife. It was informal. I wasn't trying to be precise. I was trying to have people understand that I -- that my wife and I discussed that I would not establish a personal or professional relationship with him, and that I did not. Thereafter, I did not. Q During the podcast, would you dispute any characterization that you implied that, after this initial interaction, you would never interact with Mr. Epstein again? A I would. The characterization suggesting that I couldn't be in the room -- that I personally -- A, it was discussion with my wife that I, as a man, should avoid being with him because he has no boundaries, and that won't work well for me in my life if I'm with someone with no