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Q And, at this point, did you ask to end the tour, or you just said, "We're going to leave"? A I don't remember precisely what we said, but we basically excused ourselves and departed. Q Did your wife ask Mr. Epstein any questions related to the massage table? A I don't recall her speaking, no. Q So, on the podcast, you said, after seeing the massage table in Mr. Epstein's house and the six, eight steps it took for you and your wife to get back to your house, you decide, and I'm quoting, "that I will never be in the room with that disgusting person ever again." Is that an accurate characterization of the statements you made on that podcast? A That is an informal, incomplete discussion that my wife and I had as we walked back, the point of which was that, when I discussed it with my wife, that I, Howard Lutnick, would not have a personal or professional relationship with this person because he obviously doesn't have boundaries. So just avoid him. I should avoid him. And that's what we discussed. It's not verbatim what we said because this is 21 years ago, but it's -- and it is what I did. I avoided that person. Q And I believe my colleague may have been asking a similar question, but that feeling that he was disgusting, that was based solely on interaction with Epstein after you saw the massage table and asked him about it. Is that right? A It was based on his comment that was inappropriate and gross to me and my wife. It just was off-putting, and we left. Q It's been reported, and we've seen by the files released by the Department of Justice, that Mr. Epstein decorated his home with creepy and disturbing artwork. Did you notice any unusual artwork at his residence when you visited? A The living room, which I saw, did not have anything creepy or unusual in it. Q You didn't notice any paintings or photos of nude women or girls in it -- on it when you visited his property?