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Deposition Transcripts · Segments · #8892
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So you have this coffee. What happened next? A Or he -- he offered, "Would you like a tour of the house," and we said, "Sure." And then we had a tour, and we went across the hall where, you know -- across from the living room is generally the dining room -- and he opened the door, and there was a massage table. And I saw his massage table, and that ended the tour. Q So you did not see the rest of the house? One room is what you're saying? A One room. That's my recollection. Mr. Spectre. Secretary Lutnick, you mentioned in your opening statement that he demonstrated -- that Mr. Epstein demonstrated a clear lack of boundaries, I think was the word that you used. Are you referring to the massage table in that? Secretary Lutnick. No. So we were in the living room. So I saw the living room, and then we went, and he opened the door to the room across the hall, which was what I had assumed would be the dining room, but he opened it, and there was a massage table. And his lack of boundaries was what he said. Mr. Spectre. What did he say? Secretary Lutnick. I asked him why he had a massage table in the middle of his house. This is the best of my recollection. It's not, like, precisely what was said. This is a general recollection of something that's 21 years ago. So -- and I said, "How often do you have a massage?" And he said -- my best recollection is, he said, "Every day and the right kind of massage." And he said it to me, and my wife is standing next to me, and we looked at each other, and we left. BY MR. EMMER: Q For the record, what did you interpret Mr. Epstein to mean when he said "the right kind of massage"? A That it would become in some form sexual in nature. And that's -- and that's what I assumed it meant.