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A A short -- reasonably short amount of time, maybe 10 or 15 minutes. And then he offered us a tour of his house. Q And I recognize that you touched on this in your opening statement, but, again, when did you purchase the property? A So I purchased my property in 1997, and then -- but it was an unfinished property, meaning, the residents were pigeons and mice. I mean, literally unfinished. I mean pigeons flying around. So it required extensive building. I wouldn't even say renovations. It didn't have a heating or air conditioning system. It was a raw structure. Q And you said you moved into the property in 2005. Correct? A That's right. Q And, in between the purchase and the renovations you made, you had no contact with Mr. Epstein whatsoever? A Zero. Q What did you know about Mr. Epstein prior to this interaction? A I didn't know of him. I don't recall knowing anything about him. Q You had no understanding of what his job was when you initially met him? A I did not. Not that I recall. Everything I say would be what I recall today, so. Q And, again, you brought this up in your opening statement, but this first interaction, you going to his home for coffee, that is the interaction you described on the Pod Force One podcast. Is that right? A Yes. And I went with my wife next door. He invited my wife and I over to welcome us to the neighborhood, is what my recollection is. Q And, for the record, I am referring to the October 1st, 2025, Pod Force One podcast that you appeared on as a guest with Miranda Devine, which we'll discuss in more detail shortly.