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Q I understand -- you mentioned earlier that you -- a determination was made that you would not recuse yourself from the SDNY investigation. And just to make sure my understanding is clear, was that based on input from the Ethics Office at DOJ? A That's my recollection, yeah. Q Okay. And do you recall the rationale for concluding that your continued involvement was consistent with the ethics regs? A Because I really didn't have a connection. I wasn't involved in the first investigation. Q There has been mention in the press about your father's role as the headmaster of the Dalton School in New York. Was that a consideration in the Ethics Office analysis? A Actually, I don't even think -- I don't know whether I was aware of that at that time. Obviously not. It's not pertinent at all. Q You spoke generally during the previous round about the nature and extent of your involvement in the SDNY investigation. I'd like to just delve into that in a bit more detail, if I could. To begin with, could you describe the allocation of responsibility between yourself and U.S. Attorney Berman? A Well, the U.S. Attorney -- all U.S. Attorneys are responsible for pursuing investigations and making prosecutorial judgments. Q Yeah. Just to clarify, I don't mean generally operationally within DOJ. I'm speaking specifically with respect to the Epstein investigation. A Well, this was a case that was within his purview. He had, obviously, approved or was involved in either its launching or continued under him, and so he was responsible for conducting the investigation and making the initial prosecutorial judgments. Also, under the Department rules, that if he believes there's a basis for investigating someone who is a prominent person or a senior political official or whatever, he is supposed to send an urgent