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evidence regarding -- that you reviewed regarding his state of mind, Mr. Epstein's state of mind? A Well, you know, I was aware that, you know, he had tried suicide, which I viewed as an attempted suicide. The -- he had done his last will and testament right before. Q When did you become aware of that one? A Sometime during this period where I was absorbing information. I can't pinpoint it. But there was a period of time where things were being learned, and I was finding out about them, if they were pertinent. And he -- his efforts to get bail had failed. So he was looking at a period of time of incarceration in that place, which I think for him was very difficult. And I do remember the buzz that was caused that Friday, I believe, by the release of documents by the court that had a lot of salacious material in there about prominent individuals and so forth, and that that caused quite a stir. And so I think that my judgment was this will sort of set the stage for -- and was -- and he made a call to his girlfriend apparently. I found out early that he -- that procedures were not followed, and he was allowed to make an unmonitored call to a woman, who I believe was in Byelorussia and who was his -- I understood to be or believed to be his girlfriend at the time. And he made a call to her at that point. So it seemed important for him to make a call that evening to her. And so, putting all these together, I think it was consistent with suicide. Q And then during -- A Just as to -- just as to his state of mind. Q Uh-huh. During a speech shortly thereafter at the Fraternal Order of Police conference on August 12th, you said that you learned of serious irregularities that were deeply concerning at MCC. A Uh-huh. Q Do you recall what the irregularities were? A Well, one, you know, I was wondering who the person was who made the decision to