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8662
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26
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A Uh-huh. Q -- take with that what you will. A Yes. Q But do you recall Dr. Baden being involved at the time? A I remember just reading news coverage -- well, he came in after, I believe, after the autopsy, reached his conclusions, and he offered another view of it. And I remember press reports to that effect. Q He -- his view, which is contrary to the medical examiner's, and, again, I will say that he is an expert medical witness not a medical examiner, but that Epstein had fractures to his larynx, and I believe it was three fractures -- three different fractures to his hyoid bone in his neck, and that was described as extremely unusual in suicidal hangs and more consistent with homicidal strangulation. Do you recall any conversations about Mr. Baden's report within the Department or with the FBI? A I remember conversations about it, commenting on it. Q Did anyone agree with Mr. -- Dr. Baden's finding? A No. I mean, no one expressed agreement during any of my conversations. Q No one expressed disagreement to you. Did -- understanding evidence was -- and information was flowing really quickly, did you ever see any evidence that suggested Mr. Epstein's death was a homicide? A No. On the contrary, I think, when you look at the cumulation of all the evidence, including the testimony of individuals, his state of mind, you know, the whole thing, the processes, you know, one of the things that impressed me was that it would have required -- it would have required people -- it wasn't known until 8 o'clock that morning, I believe, that his cellmate was gone, and it wasn't even clear during the day whether he'd get a replacement. So there wasn't much time for people to understand that he was going to be by himself, very, very little time. And this would've required coordination from probably two dozen people maybe