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Deposition Transcripts · Segments · #8660
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Q Did you -- I asked this, but did you review like entry and exit logs for the SHU? A I may have. I saw some records. I can't remember what they were. Q Okay. The chief medical examiner at the time stated after examination that Epstein died by, I believe it was described as kneeling hanging, so not jumping off the top bunk but using leverage to kind of lean forward. Does that fit your recollection? A I remember discussion of a kneeling hanging, but I -- I can't remember what posture he was in at the end. Q And -- A They found him with his buttocks facing the -- Q The ground. A -- the ground. So I'm not sure he was on his knees at that point. Q But you hadn't -- do you recall seeing any evidence that he jumped off the bunk or otherwise like fell -- A I think -- Q -- versus just kind of -- A No. I think the evidence was that he hung himself. And it was essentially close to the modus operandi that he had used before being put on watch, you know, the same nooses and coming off the top and landing. In that case, he landed on his knees apparently. It didn't work. Q Were you being kept apprised of the autopsy and its results in sort of real time? A No. Q Do you recall when -- A That's -- that was conducted by New York. Q Do you recall when you -- A Or the city, I think, maybe, but -- Q Do you recall when you first got briefed on the autopsy?