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control. So no one would have the key for it. And it was my understanding that that would leave a record of it being opened. So there was no way to come in that door except going through central control -- having it remotely opened. And then, second, the second door -- Q I'm sorry, just the primary door is the door in the center of the schematic that appears open in the picture. Is that the primary one? Mr. O'Callaghan. He's saying this one. The Witness. In the -- the one up here? Yes. Mr. O'Callaghan. Are you pointing to the black rectangular section? Yes. Mr. O'Callaghan. He's saying it's that. BY : Q Which one is the primary entrance into the SHU? A Well, I don't recognize the schematic, but from my recollection is the primary -- the primary exit is over on the right-hand side -- Q Okay. A -- here. And, if it's over here, then I would have to see a schematic. But my recollection is that you have to come up an elevator, and then you get into a room where you have to get through the control door that can only be opened centrally. And, then, if you -- once you get through that, you come through the door that immediately enters onto the SHU, and that requires a key. And my understanding was that the key to that was held by the officers inside the SHU, and they would have to come and let that person in. That's my understand -- that was my understanding. So I think it was not physically possible in the first instance -- well, in my opinion -- for