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| 8763 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 0 | Page 1 | COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, WASHINGTON, D.C. INTERVIEW OF: TED WAITT Thursday, April 30, 2026 Washington, D.C. The interview in ƚŚĞĂďŽǀĞŵĂƩĞƌǁĂƐŚĞůĚŝŶƌŽŽŵϮϮϰϳ͕ĐŽŵŵĞŶĐŝŶŐĂƚϭϬ͗ϬϭĂ͘ŵ͘ WƌĞƐĞŶƚ͗ ZĞƉƌĞƐĞŶƚĂƟǀĞƐŽŵĞƌ͕tĂůŬŝŶƐŚĂǁ͕^ƵďƌĂŵĂŶLJĂŵ͕DĂĐĞ͕ĂŶĚ<ŚĂŶŶĂ͘ | ||
| 8764 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 1 | Page 2 | ƉƉĞĂƌĂŶĐĞƐ͗ For the COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM: DANIEL ASHWORTH, GENERAL COUNSEL BRITTANY BRIGNAC, SENIOR COUNSEL HANNAH CATHEY, PROFESSIONAL STAFF MEMBER JESSICA COLLINS, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR :< DD Z͕,/ &KhE^ >&KZ/Es ^d/'d/KE^ EMILY FEYERABEND, COUNSEL RYAN GIACHETTI, CHIEF COUNSEL BILLY GRANT, DEPUTY CHIEF COUNSEL FOR INVESTIGATIONS WILL HARNICE, PROFESSIONAL STAFF MEMBER PETER SPECTRE, DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR OVERSIGHT ELLISON TOLAN, COUNSEL , MINORITY DEPUTY STAF… | ||
| 8765 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 2 | Page 3 | For TED WAITT: ASHLEY CALLEN, ESQ. :KE^<>Ez͕ ^Y͘ ANDREW PLAGUE, ESQ. :ĞŶŶĞƌΘůŽĐŬ | ||
| 8766 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 3 | Page 4 | Ms. Cathey. dŚŝƐŝƐĂƚƌĂŶƐĐƌŝďĞĚŝŶƚĞƌǀŝĞǁŽĨDƌ͘ dŚĞŽĚŽƌĞtĂŝƩ͕ĐŽŶĚƵĐƚĞĚďLJƚŚĞ,ŽƵƐĞ ŽŵŵŝƩĞĞŽŶKǀĞƌƐŝŐŚƚĂŶĚ'ŽǀĞƌŶŵĞŶƚZĞĨŽƌŵƵŶĚĞƌƚŚĞĂƵƚŚŽƌŝƚLJŐƌĂŶƚĞĚƚŽŝƚƉƵƌƐƵĂŶƚƚŽ House Rule X. ĐĐŽƌĚŝŶŐůLJ͕,ŽƵƐĞ Rule yŐƌĂŶƚƐƚŚĞĐŽŵŵŝƩĞĞďƌŽĂĚũƵƌŝƐĚŝĐƟŽŶĨŽƌƚŚĞĐŽŵŵŝƩĞĞƚŽ ĐŽŶĚƵĐƚŝŶǀĞƐƟŐĂƟŽŶƐŽĨĂŶLJŵĂƩĞƌĂƚĂŶLJƟŵĞ͘ This interview was requested by Chairman James ŽŵĞƌĂƐƉĂƌƚŽĨƚŚĞĐŽŵŵŝƩĞĞΖƐ ŝŶǀĞƐƟŐĂƟŽŶŝŶƚŽƚŚĞĐŝƌĐƵŵƐƚĂŶĐĞƐŝŶƚŚĞƐƵďƐĞƋƵĞŶƚŝŶǀĞƐƟŐĂƟŽŶƐŝŶƚŽƚŚĞĐƌŝŵĞƐŽĨ :ĞīƌĞ… | ||
| 8767 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 4 | Page 5 | Mr. ^ƉĞĐƚƌĞ͘ Peter ^ƉĞĐƚƌĞ͕ĚŝƌĞĐƚŽƌŽĨKǀĞƌƐŝŐŚƚ͕ŚĂŝƌŵĂŶ Comer. Mr. Grant. Billy 'ƌĂŶƚ͕ĚĞƉƵƚLJĐŚŝĞĨĐŽƵŶƐĞůĨŽƌŝŶǀĞƐƟŐĂƟŽŶƐĨŽƌŚĂŝƌŵĂŶ Comer. Mr. Emmer. :ĂĐŬ ŵŵĞƌ͕ĐŚŝĞĨĐŽƵŶƐĞůĨŽƌŝŶǀĞƐƟŐĂƟŽŶƐĨŽƌŚĂŝƌŵĂŶ Comer. Mr. 'ŝĂĐŚĞƫ͘ ZLJĂŶ'ŝĂĐŚĞƫ͕ĐŚŝĞĨĐŽƵŶƐĞůĨŽƌŚĂŝƌŵĂŶ Comer. Mr. Ashworth. ĂŶƐŚǁŽƌƚŚ͕ŐĞŶĞƌĂůĐŽƵŶƐĞůĨŽƌŚĂŝƌŵĂŶ Comer. Ms. ƌŝŐŶĂĐ͘ ƌŝƩĂŶLJƌŝŐŶĂĐ͕ƐĞŶŝŽƌĐŽƵŶƐĞůĨŽƌŚĂŝƌŵĂŶ Comer. Ms. Tolan. ůůŝƐŽŶdŽůĂŶ͕ĐŽƵŶƐĞůĨŽƌŚĂŝƌŵĂŶ Comer. Ms. Feyerabend. ŵŝůLJ&ĞLJĞƌĂďĞŶĚ͕… | ||
| 8768 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 5 | Page 6 | DĞŵďĞƌƐŽƌƐƚĂīĂƌĞƐƉĞĂŬŝŶŐĚƵƌŝŶŐƚŚĞŽƉƉŽƐŝŶŐƐŝĚĞΖƐƌŽƵŶĚƐŽĨƋƵĞƐƟŽŶƐ͘ tĞǁŝůůĂůƚĞƌŶĂƚĞďĂĐŬĂŶĚĨŽƌƚŚƵŶƟůƚŚĞƌĞĂƌĞŶŽŵŽƌĞƋƵĞƐƟŽŶƐ͘ ŽLJŽƵƵŶĚĞƌƐƚĂŶĚ͍ Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ Yes. Ms. Cathey. dŚĞƌĞŝƐĂĐŽƵƌƚƌĞƉŽƌƚĞƌƚĂŬŝŶŐĚŽǁŶĞǀĞƌLJƚŚŝŶŐ/ƐĂLJĂŶĚĞǀĞƌLJƚŚŝŶŐLJŽƵƐĂLJ ƚŽŵĂŬĞĂǁƌŝƩĞŶƌĞĐŽƌĚŽĨƚŚĞŝŶƚĞƌǀŝĞǁ͘ &ŽƌƚŚĞƌĞĐŽƌĚƚŽďĞĐůĞĂƌ͕ƉůĞĂƐĞǁĂŝƚƵŶƟůƚŚĞƐƚĂīĞƌƋƵĞƐƟŽŶŝŶŐLJŽƵĮŶŝƐŚĞƐĞĂĐŚƋƵĞƐƟŽŶ ďĞĨŽƌĞLJŽƵďĞŐŝŶLJŽƵƌĂŶƐǁĞƌ͕ĂŶĚƚŚĞƐƚĂīǁŝůůǁĂŝƚƵŶƟůLJŽƵĮŶŝƐŚLJŽƵƌƌĞƐƉŽŶƐĞďĞĨŽ… | ||
| 8769 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 6 | Page 7 | ŽLJŽƵƵŶĚĞƌƐƚĂŶĚ͍ Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ Yes. Ms. Cathey. Although you are here voluntarily and you will not be sworn in, you are ƌĞƋƵŝƌĞĚďLJůĂǁ͕ƉƵƌƐƵĂŶƚƚŽdŝƚůĞϭϴŽĨƚŚĞhŶŝƚĞĚ States ŽĚĞ͕^ĞĐƟŽŶϭϬϬϭ͕ƚŽĂŶƐǁĞƌƋƵĞƐƟŽŶƐ ĨƌŽŵŽŶŐƌĞƐƐƚƌƵƚŚĨƵůůLJ͘ dŚŝƐĂůƐŽĂƉƉůŝĞƐƚŽƋƵĞƐƟŽŶƐƉŽƐĞĚďLJĐŽŶŐƌĞƐƐŝŽŶĂůƐƚĂīŝŶƚŚŝƐŝŶƚĞƌǀŝĞǁ͘ ŽLJŽƵ ƵŶĚĞƌƐƚĂŶĚ͍ Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ Yes. Ms. Cathey. /ĨĂƚĂŶLJƟŵĞLJŽƵŬŶŽǁŝŶŐůLJŵĂŬĞĨĂůƐĞƐƚĂƚĞŵĞŶƚƐ͕LJŽƵǁŽƵůĚďĞƐƵďũĞĐƚƚŽ ĐƌŝŵŝŶĂůƉƌŽƐĞĐƵƟŽŶ͘ ŽLJŽƵƵŶĚĞƌƐƚĂŶĚ͍ … | ||
| 8770 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 7 | Page 8 | ĂƐƐĞƌƟŽŶŵƵƐƚĐŽŵƉůLJǁŝƚŚƚŚĞƌƵůĞƐŽĨƚŚĞŽŵŵŝƩĞĞŽŶKǀĞƌƐŝŐŚƚĂŶĚ'ŽǀĞƌŶŵĞŶƚ ZĞĨŽƌŵ͘ WƵƌƐƵĂŶƚƚŽƚŚĂƚ͕ŽŵŵŝƩĞĞZƵůĞϭϲ;ĐͿϭƐƚĂƚĞƐ͕&ŽƌƚŚĞĐŚĂŝƌƚŽĐŽŶƐŝĚĞƌĂƐƐĞƌƟŽŶƐŽĨ ƉƌŝǀŝůĞŐĞŽǀĞƌƚĞƐƟŵŽŶLJŽƌƐƚĂƚĞŵĞŶƚƐ͕ǁŝƚŶĞƐƐĞƐ͕ŽƌĞŶƟƟĞƐŵƵƐƚĐůĞĂƌůLJƐƚĂƚĞƚŚĞƐƉĞĐŝĮĐƉƌŝǀŝůĞŐĞ ďĞŝŶŐĂƐƐĞƌƚĞĚĂŶĚƚŚĞƌĞĂƐŽŶĨŽƌƚŚĞĂƐƐĞƌƟŽŶŽŶŽƌďĞĨŽƌĞƚŚĞƐĐŚĞĚƵůĞĚĚĂƚĞŽĨƚĞƐƟŵŽŶLJŽƌ ĂƉƉĞĂƌĂŶĐĞ͘ ŽLJŽƵƵŶĚĞƌƐƚĂŶĚ͍ Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ Yes. Ms. Cathey. KƌĚŝŶĂƌŝůLJ͕ǁĞƚĂŬĞĂϱ-ŵŝŶƵƚĞďƌĞĂŬĂƚƚŚĞĞŶĚŽĨĞĂĐŚŚŽƵƌ… | ||
| 8771 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 8 | Page 9 | /ŶϮϬϬϱ͕ŵLJƐŝƐƚĞƌĂŶĚ/ĨŽƵŶĚĞĚƚŚĞtĂŝƩ /ŶƐƟƚƵƚĞĨŽƌsŝŽůĞŶĐĞWƌĞǀĞŶƟŽŶ͕ďƵŝůĚŝŶŐŽŶƚŚĞ ǁŽƌŬƚŚĞ&ŽƵŶĚĂƟŽŶŚĂĚďĞĞŶĚŽŝŶŐƐŝŶĐĞϭϵϵϯ͘ dŚĞ/ŶƐƟƚƵƚĞŝƐĨŽĐƵƐĞĚŽŶĐŽŵďĂƟŶŐǀŝŽůĞŶĐĞĂŐĂŝŶƐƚǁŽŵĞŶ͕ƉƌĞǀĞŶƟŶŐďƵůůLJŝŶŐ͕ĂŶĚ ďƌĞĂŬŝŶŐƚŚĞĐLJĐůĞƐŽĨǀŝŽůĞŶĐĞƚŚĂƚĞdžŝƐƚŝŶŽƵƌŚŽŵĞƐ͕ƐĐŚŽŽůƐ͕ĂŶĚĐŽŵŵƵŶŝƟes. ƚŝƚƐĐŽƌĞ͕ŽƵƌǁŽƌŬŝƐĂďŽƵƚĚŝƐƌƵƉƟŶŐƚŚĞƐŽĐŝĂůŶŽƌŵƐƚŚĂƚĂĐĐĞƉƚǀŝŽůĞŶĐĞĂƐĂƉĂƌƚŽĨůŝĨĞ͘ dŚĂƚΖƐǁŚLJ/ďĞůŝĞǀĞLJŽƵƌĐƵƌƌĞŶƚŝŶƋƵŝƌLJŝŶƚŽ:ĞīƌĞLJ Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell is so i… | ||
| 8772 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 9 | Page 10 | To put this period, mid-ϮϬϬϰ͕ŝŶƚŽƉĞƌƐƉĞĐƟǀĞ͕/ǁĂƐƉƌĞƉĂƌŝŶŐƚŽĮŶĂůůLJƌĞƟƌĞĨƌŽŵ'ĂƚĞǁĂLJ ĂŌĞƌƌĞƚƵƌŶŝŶŐƚŽƚŚĞ KƌŽůĞƚŽƐĂǀĞƚŚĞĐŽŵƉĂŶLJ/ŚĂĚĨŽƵŶĚĞĚ͘ /ǁĂƐƐĞƉĂƌĂƟŶŐĨƌŽŵŵLJǁŝĨĞ ĂŶĚƚŚĞŵŽƚŚĞƌŽĨŵLJĐŚŝůĚƌĞŶ͕ĂŶĚ/ǁĂƐƐƟůůŐƌŝĞǀŝŶŐƚŚĞƵŶĞdžƉĞĐƚĞĚůŽƐƐŽĨŵLJĨĂƚŚĞƌŝŶƵŐƵƐƚ 2003. /ĐĂŶƐĂLJƵŶĞƋƵŝǀŽĐĂůůLJƚŚĂƚŝĨ/ŬŶĞǁƚŚĞŶǁŚĂƚ/ŬŶŽǁŶŽǁĂďŽƵƚDƐ͘ Maxwell, I never ǁŽƵůĚΖǀĞďĞĨƌŝĞŶĚĞĚŚĞƌŽƌĂůůŽǁĞĚŚĞƌƚŽďĞĂƌŽƵŶĚŵLJĨŽƵƌĐŚŝůĚƌĞŶ͕ƚŚƌĞĞŽĨǁŚŽŵĂƌĞŐŝƌůƐĂŶĚ ǁŚŽ͕ĂƚƚŚĂƚƉŽŝŶ… | ||
| 8773 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 10 | Page 11 | ƚĞƐƟŵŽŶLJŝƐŚĞůƉĨƵů͘ Ms. Cathey. dŚĂŶŬLJŽƵ͕Dƌ͘tĂŝƩ͘ dŝŵĞƌĞĂĚƐϭϬ͗ϭϮ͕ĂŶĚƚŚĞŵĂũŽƌŝƚLJΖƐƟŵĞǁŝůůďĞŐŝŶŶŽǁ͘ EXAMINATION BY MS. CATHEY: Q dŚĂŶŬLJŽƵĂŐĂŝŶĨŽƌĂƉƉĞĂƌŝŶŐǀŽůƵŶƚĂƌŝůLJ͘ tĞĂƉƉƌĞĐŝĂƚĞLJŽƵďĞŝŶŐŚĞƌĞƚŽĚĂLJĂŶĚ LJŽƵƌƚĞƐƟŵŽŶLJĂŶĚLJŽƵƌǁŝůůŝŶŐƚŽďĞƚƌƵƚŚĨƵůǁŝƚŚƵƐƚŽĚĂLJ͕ĂŶĚ/ũƵƐƚǁĂŶƚƚŽƐƚĂƌƚďƌŝĞŇLJǁŝƚŚƐŽŵĞ ƉƌĞůŝŵŝŶĂƌLJďĂĐŬŐƌŽƵŶĚ͘ zŽƵĚŝĚũƵƐƚũƵŵƉŝŶƚŽLJŽƵƌďĂĐŬŐƌŽƵŶĚĂůŝƩůĞďŝƚ͕ďƵƚƐƚĂƌƟŶŐŽīƐŝŵƉůLJ͕ǁŚĞƌĞĚŝĚLJŽƵŐŽƚŽ ƵŶĚĞƌŐƌĂĚƵĂƚĞƐĐŚŽŽů͍ A /ǁĞŶƚƚŽƵ… | ||
| 8774 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 11 | Page 12 | Q ĂŶLJŽƵĚĞƐĐƌŝďĞĂůŝƩůĞďŝƚŵŽƌĞĂďŽƵƚǁŚĂƚƚŚŽƐĞĐŝƌĐƵŵƐƚĂŶĐĞƐǁĞƌĞ͍ A Did you say -- ĞdžĐƵƐĞŵĞ-- did you say with the Clintons present or -- Q tĞƌĞƚŚĞůŝŶƚŽŶƐƉƌĞƐĞŶƚĂƚƚŚŝƐĚŝŶŶĞƌ͍ A At dinner, only Bill Clinton. Q KŶůLJWƌĞƐŝĚĞŶƚůŝŶƚŽŶ͘ dŚĂŶŬLJŽƵ͘ ŶĚƚŚŝƐǁĂƐŝŶϮϬϬϯ͍ A zĞƐ͕EŽǀĞŵďĞƌŽĨϮϬϬϯ͘ Q ƌĞƚŚĞƌĞĂŶLJĚĞƚĂŝůƐƚŚĂƚǁĞƌĞůĞŌŽƵƚŽĨLJŽƵƌŝŶŝƟĂůƐƚĂƚĞŵĞŶƚƚŚĂƚLJŽƵǁŽƵůĚůŝŬĞƚŽ ĂĚĚƐƵƌƌŽƵŶĚŝŶŐƚŚĞĐŝƌĐƵŵƐƚĂŶĐĞƐŽĨƚŚĂƚĞǀĞŶƚ͍ tŚŽŝŶǀŝƚĞĚLJŽƵƚŽƚŚĂƚĞǀĞŶƚ͕ĨŽƌ… | ||
| 8775 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 12 | Page 13 | Q tŚĂƚŬŝŶĚŽĨĐŽŶǀĞƌƐĂƟŽŶƐǁĞƌĞLJΖĂůůŚĂǀŝŶŐ͍ A /ĚŽŶΖƚƌĞĐĂůůĂŶLJƐƉĞĐŝĮĐĐŽŶǀĞƌƐĂƟŽŶƐ͘ /ƚǁĂƐ͕LJŽƵŬŶŽǁ͕ũƵƐƚĂƐŽĐŝĂůĚŝŶŶĞƌ͘ Q tŚŽŝŶƚƌŽĚƵĐĞĚLJŽƵƚŽDƐ͘ DĂdžǁĞůůĂƚƚŚĂƚĚŝŶŶĞƌ͍ A /ĚŽŶΖƚƌĞĐĂůůĞdžĂĐƚůLJ͘ Q ŽLJŽƵƌĞĐĂůůƚŚĞĮƌƐƚĐŽŶǀĞƌƐĂƟŽŶLJŽƵŚĂĚǁŝƚŚŚĞƌ͍ A zĞƐ͘ /ƚǁĂƐůĂƚĞƌŽŶŝŶƚŚĂƚ͕ƐŚŽƌƚůLJďĞĨŽƌĞ/ůĞŌƚŚĞĚŝŶŶĞƌ͕/ďĞůŝĞǀĞ͘ BY MR. SPECTRE: Q ŽLJŽƵƌĞĐĂůůǁŚŽĞůƐĞǁĂƐĂƚƚŚĞƚĂďůĞǁŝƚŚLJŽƵĂŶĚWƌĞƐŝĚĞŶƚ ůŝŶƚŽŶ͍ A dŚĞƌĞǁĂƐĂŶƵŵďĞƌŽĨ people. There was a ver… | ||
| 8776 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 13 | Page 14 | A /ĚŽŶΖƚƌĞĐĂůů͘ /ƚŚŝŶŬ/ǁĂƐŝŶƚƌŽĚƵĐĞĚǁŚĞŶ/ǁĂůŬĞĚŝŶ͘ /ǁĂůŬĞĚŝŶůĂƚĞ͘ dŚĞ ĚŝŶŶĞƌǁĂƐĂůƌĞĂĚLJŬŝŶĚŽĨŝŶƉƌŽŐƌĞƐƐ͘ /ǁĂƐ -- ƐŽ/ĚŽŶΖƚƌĞĐĂůůĞdžĂĐƚůLJǁŚŽŝŶƚƌŽĚƵĐĞĚŵĞ͘ /ƚŚŝŶŬ /ǁĂƐŝŶƚƌŽĚƵĐĞĚƚŽƚŚĞŵ͕ƐŽ͘ Ms. Callen. ŶĚũƵƐƚƚŽĐůĂƌŝĨLJ͕Dƌ͘tĂŝƩĚŝĚŶŽƚƚƌĂǀĞů with the group͘ ,ĞƐŽƌƚŽĨŵĞƚƚŚĞ group there. Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ Yeah. Ms. Cathey. hŶĚĞƌƐƚŽŽĚ͕ƚŚĂŶŬLJŽƵ͘ BY MS. CATHEY: Q &ŽůůŽǁŝŶŐƚŚŝƐĚŝŶŶĞƌ͕ĚŝĚLJŽƵŐĞƚĂŶLJŬŝŶĚŽĨĐŽŶƚĂĐƚŝŶĨŽƌŵĂƟŽŶĨƌŽŵDƐ͘ Maxwell, or Ě… | ||
| 8777 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 14 | Page 15 | Q ŝĚƚŚĞŶĂƚƵƌĞŽĨLJŽƵƌƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉĐŚĂŶŐĞŽǀĞƌƚŚĞLJĞĂƌƐ͍ A EŽƚƌĞĂůůLJ͘ dŚĞƌĞǁĞƌĞĂĨĞǁďƌĞĂŬƐĂĐŽƵƉůĞƟŵĞƐ͕ďƵƚŝƚǁĂƐ -- /ǁŽƵůĚŶΖƚƐĂLJŝƚ ĐŚĂŶŐĞĚƐŝŐŶŝĮĐĂŶƚůLJ͘ BY MR. SPECTRE: Q tŚĂƚǁĞƌĞƚŚĞƌĞĂƐŽŶƐĨŽƌƚŚĞďƌĞĂŬƐ͍ A &ŽƌƚŚĞďƌĞĂŬ-ƵƉ͍ Q Yeah. A It was -- ŝƚǁĂƐƟŵĞ͘ /ŬŶĞǁ/ǁĂƐŶĞǀĞƌŐŽŝŶŐƚŽŵĂƌƌLJŚĞƌ͕ĂŶĚŝƚǁĂƐũƵƐƚŽŶĞŽĨ ƚŚŽƐĞƚŚŝŶŐƐ͘ /ǁĂƐŐĞƫŶŐƉƌĞƐƐƵƌĞĨƌŽŵŚĞƌĨƌŝĞŶĚƐŽĨ-- ŝƚǁĂƐũƵƐƚƟŵĞ͘ /ƚŚĂĚƌƵŶŝƚƐĐŽƵƌƐĞ͘ Q dŚĂƚƐŽƵŶĚƐůŝŬĞLJŽƵǁĞƌĞƚĂůŬŝŶŐ… | ||
| 8778 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 15 | Page 16 | Q Did you or Ms. DĂdžǁĞůůĞǀĞƌƉƌĞƐĞŶƚLJŽƵƌƐĞůĨĂƐĂĐŽƵƉůĞƚŽƚŚŽƐĞĂƌŽƵŶĚLJŽƵƉƌŝŽƌƚŽ ϮϬϬϯ͍ A No. tĂŝƩDĂũŽƌŝƚLJ džŚŝďŝƚEŽ͘ϭ͘ ǁĂƐŵĂƌŬĞĚĨŽƌŝĚĞŶƟĮĐĂƟŽŶ͘ BY MS. CATHEY: Q /ΖĚůŝŬĞƚŽŝŶƚƌŽĚƵĐĞŶŽǁ -- and it will be passed out in a minute -- ǁŚĂƚǁŝůůďĞŵĂƌŬĞĚ ĂƐŵĂũŽƌŝƚLJĞdžŚŝďŝƚϭ͕ƚŚĞƚƌĂŶƐĐƌŝƉƚĨƌŽŵƚŚĞĚŝƌĞĐƚĞdžĂŵŝŶĂƟŽŶŽĨĂǁŽŵĂŶǁŚŽǁĞǁŝůůƌĞĨĞƌƚŽĂƐ Jane Doe. And that was -- ƐŚĞƉƌĞǀŝŽƵƐůLJǁŽƌŬĞĚĂƐĂůĞŐĂůĂƐƐŝƐƚĂŶƚĨŽƌ:͘ Epstein & Company, and then ůĂƚĞƌƐŚĞǁĂƐĞdžĞĐƵƟǀĞĂ… | ||
| 8779 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 16 | Page 17 | Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ KŚ͕ŵLJŶĂŵĞΖƐŚĞƌĞ͕ƐŽ ƚŚŝƐŝƐƉĂŐĞϴϱ͘ /ƚΖƐũƵƐƚŶŽƚůĂďĞůĞĚŝŶďůƵĞ͘ Ms. Cathey. /ĂƉŽůŽŐŝnjĞ͘ Mr. ^ƉĞĐƚƌĞ͘ It may have been -- Ms. Cathey. /ƚŚŝŶŬƚŚŝƐǁĂƐƉƌŝŶƚĞĚǁŝƚŚŵŽƌĞƉĂŐĞƐƚŚĂŶŝƐŶĞĐĞƐƐĂƌŝůLJ͘ ^ŽŝƚŝƐƉĂŐĞϴϱ͘ Mr. ^ŬůĂĚĂŶLJ͘ /ƚŚŝŶŬƚŚĞLJĨŽƵŶĚŝƚ͕LJĞĂŚ͘ /ΖŵƐŽƌƌLJ͘ Ms. Cathey. /ΖŵƐŽƌƌLJĂďŽƵƚƚŚĂƚ͘ Mr. ^ŬůĂĚĂŶLJ͘ /ΖŵƚŚĞƉƌŽďůĞŵ͘ Ms. Cathey. ŶĚǁĞΖƌĞůŽŽŬŝŶŐĂƚůŝŶĞƐϳƚŚƌŽƵŐŚϭϯ͕ĂŶĚLJΖĂůůĐĂŶƚĂŬĞĂůŽŽŬĂƚƚŚĂƚĂŶĚůĞƚ ƵƐŬŶŽǁǁŚĞŶLJŽƵΖƌĞƌĞĂĚLJƚŽ… | ||
| 8780 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 17 | Page 18 | Q ,ŽǁůŽŶŐǁĞƌĞLJŽƵŝŶĂƌŽŵĂŶƟĐƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉǁŝƚŚDƐ͘ DĂdžǁĞůů͕ĨŽƌƚŚĞĐůĂƌŝƚLJŽĨƚŚĞ ƌĞĐŽƌĚ͍ A &ƌŽŵĞĂƌůLJϮϬϬϰƚŚƌŽƵŐŚ^ĞƉƚĞŵďĞƌϮϬϭϬ͘ Q September. ŶĚLJŽƵŵĞŶƟŽŶĞĚƚŚŝƐĂůŝƩůĞďŝƚŝŶLJŽƵƌŽƉĞŶŝŶŐƐƚĂƚĞŵĞŶƚ͕ďƵƚŚŽǁĨƌĞƋƵĞŶƚůLJĚŝĚLJŽƵƐĞĞ ĞĂĐŚŽƚŚĞƌƚŚƌŽƵŐŚƚŚĞĐŽƵƌƐĞŽĨƚŚĞƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉ͍ A It was primarily every other -- ĞǀĞƌLJŽƚŚĞƌǁĞĞŬ͘ /ƚǁĂƐŶΖƚĐŽŶƐŝƐƚĞŶƚĞǀĞƌLJŽƚŚĞƌ ǁĞĞŬ͕ďƵƚŵŽƐƚůLJ͘ Q ŶĚLJŽƵƐĂŝĚLJŽƵůŝǀĞĚĨĂƌĂƉĂƌƚĨƌŽŵĞĂĐŚŽƚŚĞƌ͍ A Yes. Q ŝĚLJŽƵĞǀĞƌƐŚĂƌĞĂƌĞƐ… | ||
| 8781 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 18 | Page 19 | A Yes. Ms. Callen. ĂŶǁĞŐŽŽīƚŚĞƌĞĐŽƌĚĨŽƌũƵƐƚĂŵŽŵĞŶƚ͍ Mr. ^ƉĞĐƚƌĞ͘ tĞĐĂŶŐŽŽīƚŚĞƌĞĐŽƌĚ͘ Ms. Cathey. tĞĐĂŶŐŽŽīƚŚĞƌĞĐŽƌĚ͘ ŝƐĐƵƐƐŝŽŶŽīƚŚĞƌĞĐŽƌĚ͘ Ms. Cathey. tĞΖůůŐŽďĂĐŬŽŶƚŚĞƌĞĐŽƌĚ͘ BY MS. CATHEY: Q ŝĚĂŶLJŽŶĞĞůƐĞĞǀĞƌƐƚĂLJŝŶƚŚĞƌĞƐŝĚĞŶĐĞƚŚĂƚDƐ͘ Maxwell owned in New zŽƌŬ͍ A ^ŚĞŚĂĚĂƐƚĂīĐŽƵƉůĞǁŚŽůŝǀĞĚŝŶƚŚĞďĂƐĞŵĞŶƚǁŝƚŚƚŚĞŝƌƐŽŶ͘ Q ŶĚLJŽƵŵĞŶƟŽŶĞĚƚŚĂƚŽƚŚĞƌƉĂƌƚƐŽĨƚŚĞƟŵĞƚŚĞLJǁĞƌĞƐƚĂLJŝŶŐŝŶLJŽƵƌƌĞƐŝĚĞŶĐĞ͘ tŚĞƌĞǁĂƐƚŚĂƚůŽĐĂƚĞĚ͍ … | ||
| 8782 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 19 | Page 20 | Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ KĨĐŽƵƌƐĞ͘ Ms. Callen. -- ƚǁŽƐĞĐŽŶĚƐ͘ Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ /ĂƉŽůŽŐŝnjĞ͘ Ms. Cathey. tĞΖůůŐŽŽīƚŚĞƌĞĐŽƌĚ͘ ŝƐĐƵƐƐŝŽŶŽīƚŚĞƌĞĐŽƌĚ͘ Ms. Cathey. tĞΖůůŐŽďĂĐŬŽŶƚŚĞƌĞĐŽƌĚ͘ Ms. Cathey. Did Ms. DĂdžǁĞůůŚĂǀĞĂƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉǁŝƚŚĂŶLJŽŶĞĞůƐĞŝŶLJŽƵƌĨĂŵŝůLJ͍ Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ zĞƐ͕ƐŚĞŚĂĚĂĐůŽƐĞƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉǁŝƚŚŵLJĨŽƵƌĐŚŝůĚƌĞŶ͕ĂŶĚƐŚĞŵĞƚǀŝƌƚƵĂůůLJ ĞǀĞƌLJŽŶĞŝŶŵLJŝŵŵĞĚŝĂƚĞĨĂŵŝůLJ͘ Ms. Cathey. Did Ms. DĂdžǁĞůůƐƚĂLJŝŶĐŽŶƚĂĐƚǁŝƚŚLJŽƵƌĐŚŝůĚƌĞŶĂŌĞƌƚŚĞƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉ ĞŶĚĞĚ͍ Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ EŽƚ… | ||
| 8783 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 20 | Page 21 | A No. Mr. Grant. ŶĚLJŽƵƐĂŝĚLJŽƵƚŚŽƵŐŚƚŚĞǁĂƐŽī-ƉƵƫŶŐ͘ tŚĂƚŵĂĚĞLJŽƵƚŚŝŶŬƚŚĂƚŚĞ ǁĂƐŽī-ƉƵƫŶŐ͍ Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ /ƚǁĂƐũƵƐƚ -- ǁĞůů͕ŚĞǁĂƐŝŶƚƌŽĚƵĐĞĚƚŽŵĞĂƐ͕ƚŚĞLJǁĞƌĞŇLJŝŶŐŽŶŚŝƐƉůĂŶĞ͕ƚŚĞ ĚĞůĞŐĂƟŽŶ͕ƚŚĞŐƌŽƵƉ͕ŽŶĂƚŽƵƌƚŚƌŽƵŐŚƐŝĂ͘ /ƚũƵƐƚ -- /ƚŚŝŶŬƚŚĞǁĂLJŚĞĐĂƌƌŝĞĚŚŝŵƐĞůĨĂŶĚĂĨĞǁ ĐŽŵŵĞŶƚƐ͘ /ƚǁĂƐĂŐƌŽƵƉ͘ /ĚŽŶΖƚƌĞŵĞŵďĞƌŚĂǀŝŶŐĂŽŶĞ-on-ŽŶĞĐŽŶǀĞƌƐĂƟŽŶǁŝƚŚŚŝŵ͘ /ƚǁĂƐũƵƐƚ ŬŝŶĚŽĨĂůĂƌŐĞŐƌŽƵƉƚŚĞƌĞ͘ zŽƵŬŶŽǁ͕ƚŚĞƚĂďůĞŝƐƉƌŽďĂďůLJƚŚŝƐƐŝnjĞ͘ Mr. Gra… | ||
| 8784 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 21 | Page 22 | A /ĚŽŶΖƚŬŶŽǁĨŽƌƐƵƌĞ͘ Mr. ^ƉĞĐƚƌĞ͘ ,ŽǁĚŽLJŽƵŬŶŽǁŚĞǁĂƐĂǁĂƌĞŽĨƚŚĞƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉƚŚĞŶ͍ Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ I did meet with him at one point in Ms. DĂdžǁĞůůΖƐƌĞƐŝĚĞŶĐĞĞĂƌůLJŝŶŽƵƌ ƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉ͘ Ms. Cathey. ĂŶLJŽƵĚĞƐĐƌŝďĞ -- Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ At his request. Ms. Cathey. dŚĂŶŬLJŽƵ͘ ĂŶLJŽƵĚĞƐĐƌŝďĞŵŽƌĞĂďŽƵƚƚŚĞĐŝƌĐƵŵƐƚĂŶĐĞƐŽĨƚŚĂƚŵĞĞƟŶŐĂŶĚŚŽǁƚŚĂƚĐŽŶǀĞƌƐĂƟŽŶ ǁĞŶƚ͍ Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ Ms. DĂdžǁĞůůǁĂƐŚŽƐƟŶŐĂĚŝŶŶĞƌĞǀĞŶƚ͘ tĞǁĞƌĞŐĞƫŶŐƌĞĂĚLJ͕ĂŶĚƚŚĞŶƐŚĞ ĂŶŶŽƵŶĐĞĚƚŚĂƚ:ĞīƌĞLJǁĂŶƚĞĚƚŽŵĞĞƚ… | ||
| 8785 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 22 | Page 23 | A zĞƐ͕ĂŶĚƚŚĂƚƚŚĞLJĞŶĚĞĚƚŚĞŝƌƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉ͕/ƚŚŝŶŬŝƚǁĂƐ͕ŽŶŚĞƌϰϬƚŚďŝƌƚŚĚĂLJ͘ BY MS. CATHEY: Q zŽƵŵĞŶƟŽŶĞĚƚŚŝƐďƌŝĞŇLJĞĂƌůŝĞƌ͕ďƵƚŚŽǁŽŌĞŶĚŝĚLJŽƵƐĞĞŽƌŝŶƚĞƌĂĐƚǁŝƚŚ Mr. ƉƐƚĞŝŶƚŚƌŽƵŐŚƚŚĞĐŽƵƌƐĞŽĨLJŽƵƌƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉǁŝƚŚDƐ͘ DĂdžǁĞůů͍ A dŚĞƌĞǁĂƐŽŶůLJƚǁŽŽƚŚĞƌƟŵĞƐĂŌĞƌƚŚĂƚŵĞĞƟŶŐĂƚƚŚĞϲϱƚŚ^ƚƌĞĞƚƌĞƐŝĚĞŶĐĞ͕ĂŶĚ ƚŚŽƐĞǁĞƌĞďŽƚŚůŝƚĞƌĂůůLJƌƵŶŶŝŶŐŝŶƚŽŚŝŵ͕ůŝŬĞ͕ŽŶƚŚĞƐƚƌĞĞƚ͘ Q dŚĞƐĞǁĞƌĞďƌŝĞĨĐŽŶǀĞƌƐĂƟŽŶƐƚŚĞŶ͍ A sĞƌLJďƌŝĞĨ͘ Q ŽLJŽƵŚĂƉƉĞŶƚŽŬŶŽǁǁŚĂƚLJŽƵǁĞƌĞƚĂ… | ||
| 8786 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 23 | Page 24 | LJŽƵǁĞƌĞĚĂƟŶŐDƐ͘ DĂdžǁĞůů͍ Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ EŽ͕/ŶĞǀĞƌƌĞĂůůLJŚĂĚĂƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉǁŝƚŚDƌ͘ Epstein. Mr. ^ƉĞĐƚƌĞ͘ ŝĚLJŽƵĞǀĞƌĐŽŵŵƵŶŝĐĂƚĞǁŝƚŚDƌ͘ Epstein over the phone or email or anything -- Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ No. Mr. ^ƉĞĐƚƌĞ͘ -- besides the in-ƉĞƌƐŽŶŝŶƚĞƌĂĐƟŽŶƐLJŽƵĚĞƐĐƌŝďĞĚ͍ Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ No. Ms. Cathey. Did you -- Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ EŽƚƚŚĂƚ/ŬŶŽǁŽĨ͘ ^ŽƌƌLJ͘ BY MS. CATHEY: Q ŽƵůĚLJŽƵƉůĞĂƐĞŐŽŝŶƚŽĂůŝƩůĞďŝƚŵŽƌĞĚĞƚĂŝůĂďŽƵƚDƐ͘ DĂdžǁĞůůΖƐŽĐĐƵƉĂƟŽŶ͍ A ^ƵƌĞ͘ ŶĚ/ΖůůƚƌLJƚŽƐƉĞĂŬƵƉĨŽƌƚŚŽƐĞŝŶ… | ||
| 8787 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 24 | Page 25 | Q ƵƚLJŽƵƐĂŝĚƐŚĞĐƵƚďĂĐŬŚĞƌƟŵĞǁŽƌŬŝŶŐĨŽƌŚŝŵ͍ A dŚĂƚΖƐǁŚĂƚƐŚĞƚŽůĚŵĞ͘ Q tĞůů͕LJŽƵĚŝĚŶΖƚŬŶŽǁƚŚĂƚĨŽƌƐƵƌĞ͍ A /ĚŝĚŶΖƚŬŶŽǁƚŚĂƚĨŽƌƐƵƌĞ͘ Q ĞĐĂƵƐĞLJŽƵĚŝĚůŝǀĞŝŶĚŝīĞƌĞŶƚĐŝƟĞƐĂŶĚ -- A EŽǀĞƌďĂůƌĞƐƉŽŶƐĞ͘ Q ŽLJŽƵŬŶŽǁŚŽǁŽŌĞŶƐŚĞǁĂƐŐŽŝŶŐŝŶƚŽƚŚĞŽĸĐĞ͍ A /ĚŽŶΖƚŬŶŽǁ͘ Q ŽLJŽƵŬŶŽǁŚŽǁŽŌĞŶƐŚĞǁĂƐĐŽŵŵƵŶŝĐĂƟŶŐǁŝƚŚDƌ͘ ƉƐƚĞŝŶŽŶĂĚĂŝůLJďĂƐŝƐ͍ A I ĚŽŶΖƚŬŶŽǁ͘ Q Did you ever visit Ms. DĂdžǁĞůůĂƚƚŚĞŽĸĐĞǁŚĞƌĞƐŚĞǁŽƌŬĞĚĨŽƌDƌ͘ ƉƐƚĞŝŶ͍ A EŽ͕ŶŽƚƚ… | ||
| 8788 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 25 | Page 26 | observed, did Mr. Epstein ever manipulate Ms. DĂdžǁĞůůŝŶƚŽĐŽŶƟŶƵŝŶŐǁŽƌŬŝŶŐĨŽƌŚŝŵ͍ Ms. Callen. /ĨLJŽƵŚĂǀĞĂŶŽƉŝŶŝŽŶ͘ Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ zĞĂŚ͕LJŽƵΖƌĞĂƐŬŝŶŐŵĞƚŽŐŝǀĞĂŶŽƉŝŶŝŽŶ͘ Ms. Cathey. I am. As a long-ƚĞƌŵďŽLJĨƌŝĞŶĚĂŶĚǁŚĂƚLJŽƵŽďƐĞƌǀĞĚĂďŽƵƚŚĞƌ͘ Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ /ĐŽƵůĚƐƵŵŝƚƵƉƚŽƐĂLJ͕ŚĞƐĞĞŵĞĚůŝŬĞƚŚĞƌĞǁĂƐĂƉƌĞƐĞŶĐĞ͕ǁĂƐĂůǁĂLJƐƚŚĞƌĞ͘ Ms. Cathey. ŽLJŽƵĨĞĞůůŝŬĞƚŚĂƚǁĂƐĂĐŽŶƐĞƋƵĞŶĐĞŽĨƚŚĞĨĂĐƚƚŚĂƚƚŚĞLJƵƐĞĚƚŽĚĂƚĞ͍ Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ /ĚŽŶΖƚŬŶŽǁ͘ Mr. ^ƉĞĐƚƌĞ͘ ŝĚŝƚƐĞĞŵůŝŬĞ… | ||
| 8789 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 26 | Page 27 | BY MS. CATHEY: Q Did Ms. DĂdžǁĞůů͕ŝŶƚŚĞĐŽƵƌƐĞŽĨĚĂƟŶŐŚĞƌĂŶĚŐĞƫŶŐĐůŽƐĞƚŽŚĞƌ͕ĚŝĚƐŚĞĞǀĞƌ ŵĞŶƟŽŶƚŚĂƚĂŶLJƚŚŝŶŐŚĂƉƉĞŶĞĚŝŶŚĞƌƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉǁŝƚŚDƌ͘ ƉƐƚĞŝŶƚŚĂƚŵĂĚĞŚĞƌĨĞĞů ƵŶĐŽŵĨŽƌƚĂďůĞŽƌƵŶƐĂĨĞ͍ A EŽƚƚŚĂƚ/ĐĂŶƌĞĐĂůů͘ Q ŝĚƐŚĞƚĂůŬĂďŽƵƚĂŶLJƚŚŝŶŐĞǀĞƌŽĐĐƵƌƌŝŶŐƚŚĂƚƐŚĞƌĞŐƌĞƚƐ͍ A Again, nothing -- ŶŽƚŚŝŶŐĐŽŵĞƐƚŽŵŝŶĚ͘ Q tĂƐLJŽƵƌƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉǁŝƚŚDƐ͘ DĂdžǁĞůůŵŽŶŽŐĂŵŽƵƐ͍ A I was under the impression it was. Q And what is Ms. DĂdžǁĞůůΖƐƐĞdžƵĂůŽƌŝĞŶƚĂƟŽŶ͍ A ^ŚĞ… | ||
| 8790 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 27 | Page 28 | A No. Q /ΖĚůŝŬĞƚŽĞŶƚĞƌ͕ĂƐŵĂũŽƌŝƚLJĞdžŚŝďŝƚϮ͕ĂŶĞŵĂŝůĚĂƚĞĚǁŝƚŚƚŚĞƐƵďũĞĐƚůŝŶĞΗ,ĞLJ͘Η /ƚǁŝůů ďĞƉĂƐƐĞĚŽƵƚƌŝŐŚƚŶŽǁ͘ dŚŝƐŝƐĨƌŽŵ'ŚŝƐůĂŝŶĞ Maxwell to Ted tĂŝƩ͘ dŚĞĞŵĂŝůŝƐŵĂƌŬĞĚĂƐ &dŶƵŵďĞƌĞŶĚŝŶŐŝŶϱϴϭϰ͘ tĂŝƩDĂũŽƌŝƚLJ džŚŝďŝƚEŽ͘Ϯ͘ ǁĂƐŵĂƌŬĞĚĨŽƌŝĚĞŶƟĮĐĂƟŽŶ͘ BY MS. CATHEY: Q ŶĚǁĞΖůůǁĂŝƚǁŚŝůĞƚŚĞLJŐĞƚƉĂƐƐĞĚŽƵƚ͕ĂŶĚLJŽƵĐĂŶƚĂŬĞĂƐĞĐŽŶĚƚŽƌĞǀŝĞǁĂŶĚƚŚĞŶ ůĞƚƵƐŬŶŽǁǁŚĞŶLJŽƵΖƌĞƌĞĂĚLJƚŽƌĞƐƵŵĞ͘ ŽLJŽƵƌĞĐĂůůƌĞĐĞŝǀŝŶŐƚŚŝƐĞŵĂŝůĨƌŽŵDƐ͘ DĂdžǁĞůůŝŶϮϬϬϰ͍… | ||
| 8791 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 28 | Page 29 | Ms. Callen. zĞĂŚ͕ŝƚΖƐŶŽƚĐůĞĂƌ͘ Ms. Cathey. Understood. Mr. ^ŬůĂĚĂŶLJ͘ dŚĂƚΖƐĂŵĞƐƐĂŐĞƐŚĞǁƌŽƚĞ͍ Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ /ƚΖƐĂŵĞƐƐĂŐĞƐŚĞǁƌŽƚĞƚŚĂƚLJŽƵΖƌĞĂƐŬŝŶŐĂďŽƵƚ͕LJĞĂŚ͘ ^Ž/ĚŽŶΖƚŬŶŽǁ what she was -- Ms. Cathey. dŚĂŶŬLJŽƵ͘ Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ -- whether the "our" -- /ĚŽŶΖƚŬŶŽǁǁŚĞƚŚĞƌƚŚĞΗŽƵƌΗŵĞĂŶƐ Epstein or me. BY MS. CATHEY: Q dŚĂŶŬLJŽƵ͘ dŽƚŚĞďĞƐƚŽĨLJŽƵƌŬŶŽǁůĞĚŐĞ͕ǁŚĂƚǁĂƐLJŽƵƌƌĞĂĐƟŽŶƚŽƚŚŝƐĞŵĂŝůǁŚĞŶLJŽƵƌĞĐĞŝǀĞĚŝƚ͍ This was sent to you by Ghislaine. A ŐĂŝŶ͕/ĚŽŶΖƚ-- /… | ||
| 8792 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 29 | Page 30 | Mr. ^ŬůĂĚĂŶLJ͘ /ƚƐŽƵŶĚƐůŝŬĞƐŚĞΖƐƌĞǀŝĞǁŝŶŐƚŚĞǁĂLJƐĨŽƌŚĞƌĂŶĚ ƉƐƚĞŝŶƚŽƌĞŵĂŝŶĐůŽƐĞ͘ dŚĂƚΖƐŚŽǁ/ΖŵƌĞĂĚŝŶŐŝƚ͘ BY MS. CATHEY: Q zŽƵŚĂǀĞŶŽƌĞĂƐŽŶƚŽďĞůŝĞǀĞƚŚĂƚƐŚĞΖƐƚĂůŬŝŶŐĂďŽƵƚŚĞƌƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉǁŝƚŚLJŽƵĂŶĚ ůŽŐŝƐƟĐƐŽĨŚŽǁƚŚĂƚǁŝůůǁŽƌŬ͕ǁŝƚŚDƌ͘ ƉƐƚĞŝŶďĞŝŶŐŝŶǀŽůǀĞĚ͍ A zĞĂŚ͕/ƚŚŝŶŬŝƚǁĂƐ-- /ΖŵƌĞĂĚŝŶŐŝƚĂƐƚǁŽƐĞƉĂƌĂƚĞƚŚŝŶŐƐ͘ zŽƵŬŶŽǁ͕/ǁĂƐƌĞĂĚŝŶŐŝƚ ĂƐŚĞƌǁŽƌŬƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉǁŝƚŚDƌ͘ ƉƐƚĞŝŶĂŶĚŵĞďĞŝŶŐŝŶŚĞƌůŝĨĞ͘ Q tĞĐĂŶƐƚĞƉďĂĐŬĂŶĚŵĂŬĞŝƚŵŽƌĞŐĞŶĞ… | ||
| 8793 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 30 | Page 31 | A No. Q Did Ms. DĂdžǁĞůůĞǀĞƌĞdžƉƌĞƐƐĂĚĞƐŝƌĞƚŽƐƚŽƉǁŽƌŬŝŶŐĨŽƌDƌ͘ ƉƐƚĞŝŶ͍ A Not that I -- ŶŽƚƚŚĂƚ/ŬŶŽǁŽĨ͘ /ǁĂŶƚĞĚŚĞƌƚŽƐƚŽƉǁŽƌŬŝŶŐĨŽƌDƌ͘ Epstein. Q ŝĚƐŚĞĚŝƐĂŐƌĞĞǁŝƚŚLJŽƵ͍ tĞƌĞƚŚŽƐĞĐŽŶǀĞƌƐĂƟŽŶƐƚŚĂƚLJŽƵŚĂĚŽŌĞŶ͍ A /ĚŽŶΖƚƌĞŵĞŵďĞƌĂĚŝƐĂŐƌĞĞŵĞŶƚŽǀĞƌƚŚĂƚ͘ Q ŶĚǁŚLJĚŝĚLJŽƵǁĂŶƚŚĞƌƚŽƐƚŽƉǁŽƌŬŝŶŐĨŽƌŚŝŵ͍ A ĞĐĂƵƐĞŚĞǁĂƐŚĞƌĞdž-ďŽLJĨƌŝĞŶĚ͘ /ǁĂƐũƵƐƚƵŶĐŽŵĨŽƌƚĂďůĞǁŝƚŚŝƚ͘ Q dŚĞƌĞǁĞƌĞŶŽƐƉĞĐŝĮĐƌĞĂƐŽŶƐƚŚĂƚLJŽƵǁĞƌĞƵŶĐŽŵĨŽƌƚĂďůĞ͍ A No. Q Just … | ||
| 8794 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 31 | Page 32 | Q Mr. tĂŝƩ͕/ΖĚůŝŬĞƚŽƉŝǀŽƚŶŽǁƚŽLJŽƵƌĐŽŶŶĞĐƟŽŶƚŽƚŚĞůŝŶƚŽŶĨĂŵŝůLJ͘ tŚĞŶĚŝĚLJŽƵ ĮƌƐƚŵĞĞƚWƌĞƐŝĚĞŶƚ ůŝŶƚŽŶ͍ A /ŶƚŚĞůĂƚĞΖϵϬƐ͕ϭϵϵϴŽƌϭϵϵϵ͕ŝŶƵďůŝŶ͕/ƌĞůĂŶĚ͕ĂƚĂ'ĂƚĞǁĂLJĞǀĞŶƚ͘ Q ĂŶLJŽƵĚĞƐĐƌŝďĞĂůŝƩůĞďŝƚŵŽƌĞƚŚĞĐŝƌĐƵŵƐƚĂŶĐĞƐ͍ tŚŽŝŶƚƌŽĚƵĐĞĚyou to President ůŝŶƚŽŶ͍ A /ǁĂƐ͕ůŝŬĞ͕ŵĞƚŚŝŵ͕ŚŝŵƐĞůĨ͘ ,ĞǁĂƐƉƵůůĞĚƵƉƚŽŽƵƌĨĂĐƚŽƌLJŝŶĂůŝŵŽ͕ĂŶĚŚĞŐŽƚŽƵƚ ďLJŚŝŵƐĞůĨ͕ĂŶĚ/ŐƌĞĞƚĞĚŚŝŵ͘ Q You said this was at an event. A Yes. Q tŚŽĞůƐĞǁĂƐƉƌĞƐĞŶƚĂƚƚŚ… | ||
| 8795 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 32 | Page 33 | A /ƚǁĂƐWƌĞƐŝĚĞŶƚĂŶĚ^ĞĐƌĞƚĂƌLJůŝŶƚŽŶ͘ Q Do you do want to -- Ms. Callen. tĞĐĂŶŐŽŽīƚŚĞƌĞĐŽƌĚŝĨLJŽƵǁĂŶƚ -- Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ Yeah. Ms. Callen. -- ƐƉĞĐŝĮĐŶĂŵĞƐ͘ Mr. Ashworth. EŽ͘ ^ŚĞĂƐŬĞĚĂƋƵĞƐƟŽŶĂďŽƵƚŝƚ͘ Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ /ΖůůĂŶƐǁĞƌ-- Mr. Ashworth. /ĨLJŽƵƌĐůŝĞŶƚŝƐƌĞĨƵƐŝŶŐƚŽĂŶƐǁĞƌƚŚĞƋƵĞƐƟŽŶ -- Mr. tĂŝƩ͘ /ΖůůĂŶƐǁĞƌƚŚĞƋƵĞƐƟŽŶ͘ /ƚǁĂƐdĞĚĂŶƐŽŶĂŶĚDĂƌLJ^ƚĞĞŶďƵƌŐĞŶ͘ Mr. Ashworth. dŚĂŶŬLJŽƵ͘ BY MS. CATHEY: Q dŚĂŶŬLJŽƵ͘ ŶĚǁŚŽŝŶƚƌŽĚƵĐĞĚyou ƚŽ^ĞĐƌĞƚĂƌLJůŝŶƚŽŶ͍ A /… | ||
| 8796 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 33 | Page 34 | Q tĞƌĞLJŽƵĚŽŶŽƌƚŽĂŶLJŽƚŚĞƌŽƌŐĂŶŝnjĂƟŽŶŽƌĂĨŽƵŶĚĂƟŽŶƚŚĂƚǁĂƐƌĞůĂƚĞĚƚŽ President ůŝŶƚŽŶ͍ A /ŵŝŐŚƚΖǀĞĚŽŶĞƐŽŵĞƐŵĂůůŐƌĂŶƚƐƚŽƚŚĞůŝŶƚŽŶ&ŽƵŶĚĂƟŽŶ͕ďƵƚŵLJ-- the big grant I ŐĂǀĞǁĂƐƚŽƐƵƉƉŽƌƚŚŝƐƚŚĞĐŽŶƐƚƌƵĐƟŽŶŽĨŚŝƐůŝďƌĂƌLJ͘ Q ŶĚǁĞΖůůƌĞƚƵƌŶĂůŝƩůĞďŝƚŵŽƌĞƚŽƚŚĞůŝŶƚŽŶ&ŽƵŶĚĂƟŽŶůĂƚĞƌ͕ďƵƚĨŽƌŶŽǁ͕ĐĂŶLJŽƵ ďƌŝĞŇLJĚĞƐĐƌŝďĞƚŚĞĞdžƚĞŶƚĂŶĚŶĂƚƵƌĞŽĨLJŽƵƌƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉǁŝƚŚ^ĞĐƌĞƚĂƌLJ ůŝŶƚŽŶ͍ A /Ζŵ -- LJĞĂŚ͕/ΖŵŶŽƚĂƐĐůŽƐĞĂƐŝƚ -- ĂƐŝƚǁĂƐǁŝƚŚƚŚĞWƌĞƐŝĚĞŶƚ͕ďƵƚ/Ζǀ… | ||
| 8797 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 34 | Page 35 | A dŚĂƚǁŽƵůĚΖǀĞďĞĞŶďĞĨŽƌĞƚŚĞϮϬϬϴĞůĞĐƟŽŶ͕ƐŽƉƌŽďĂďůLJϮϬϬϳ͕/ΖŵŐƵĞƐƐŝŶŐ͘ BY MR. SPECTRE: Q And was President ůŝŶƚŽŶƚŚĞƌĞĂƐǁĞůů͍ A No. Q /ΖŵƐŽƌƌLJŝĨLJŽƵƐĂŝĚƚŚĂƚ͘ A Not that I -- Q ,ĞǁĂƐŶŽƚ͍ A -- ŶŽƚƚŚĂƚ/ƌĞĐĂůů͕ŶŽ͘ BY MS. CATHEY: Q ŽLJŽƵƐƟůůĐŽŵŵƵŶŝĐĂƚĞǁŝƚŚWƌĞƐŝĚĞŶƚ ůŝŶƚŽŶ͍ A Yes. Q ďŽƵƚŚŽǁŽŌĞŶ͍ A >ŝŬĞ/ƐĂŝĚ͕ŽŶĐĞŽƌƚǁŝĐĞĂLJĞĂƌ͘ Q ŶĚ^ĞĐƌĞƚĂƌLJ ůŝŶƚŽŶ͕ƐĂŵĞƋƵĞƐƟŽŶ͘ A /ŚĂǀĞŶΖƚƐĞĞŶŚĞƌŝŶĂǁŚŝůĞ͘ Mr. ^ƉĞĐƚƌĞ͘ ,ĂǀĞLJŽƵĐŽŵŵƵŶŝĐĂƚĞĚǁŝƚŚ… | ||
| 8798 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 35 | Page 36 | ĞĂƌůLJΖϵϬƐ͘ /ƐƚŚĂƚĂĐĐƵƌĂƚĞ͍ A /ĚŽŶΖƚ -- /ĚŽŶΖƚƌĞĐĂůůŵĞĞƟŶŐƚŚĞŵŝŶƚŚĞĞĂƌůLJΖϵϬƐ͘ /ĚŽŶΖƚƌĞĐĂůůŵĞĞƟŶŐƚŚĞŵƵŶƟů ƚŚĞůĂƚĞΖϵϬƐ͘ Q dŚĞůĂƚĞΖϵϬƐ͍ A Yeah. Q tŽƵůĚLJŽƵŚĂǀĞŵĞƚŚĞůƐĞĂůŝŶƚŽŶĂƌŽƵŶĚƚŚĞůĂƚĞΖϵϬƐ͍ A /ĚŽŶΖƚƚŚŝŶŬ/ŵĞƚŚĞůƐĞĂůŝŶƚŽŶƵŶƟůƚŚĞĞĂƌůLJϮϬϬϬƐ͘ Q ŶĚLJŽƵĚŽŶΖƚƌĞŵĞŵďĞƌ ƚŚĞĐŝƌĐƵŵƐƚĂŶĐĞƐ͍ A /ĚŽŶΖƚƌĞŵĞŵďĞƌ -- ĂƚůĞĂƐƚƚŚĂƚΖƐƚŚĞǁĂLJ/ƌĞŵĞŵďĞƌŝƚ͘ Q ŽLJŽƵƌĞŵĞŵďĞƌǁŚŽŝŶƚƌŽĚƵĐĞĚLJŽƵŽƌǁŚŽĐŽŶŶĞĐƚĞĚLJŽƵƚŽŚĞƌ͍ A /ĚŽŶΖƚƌĞŵĞŵďĞƌĞdžĂ… | ||
| 8799 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 36 | Page 37 | A Oh, again, I was -- /ǁĂƐũƵƐƚŐĞƫŶŐƚŽŬŶŽǁƚŚĞŵ͘ /ǁĂƐ-- /ƚŚŝŶŬ/ΖĚĂůƌĞĂĚLJŵĂĚĞŵLJ ĚŽŶĂƟŽŶƚŽƚŚĞůŝďƌĂƌLJ͕ƐŽŝƚǁĂƐŵŽƌĞĂƐŬŝŶĚŽĨĂĚŽŶŽƌ͕/ƚŚŝŶŬ͕ĂƚƚŚĂƚƉŽŝŶƚ͘ Q Did Ms. DĂdžǁĞůůŬŶŽǁƚŚĞůŝŶƚŽŶƐďĞĨŽƌĞƐŚĞŵĞƚLJŽƵ͍ A She was -- yes, not -- /ǁŽƵůĚŶΖƚƐĂLJƚŚĞůŝŶƚŽŶƐ͘ /ƚŚŝŶŬƐŚĞŬŶĞǁWƌĞƐŝĚĞŶƚ Clinton. Q Just President ůŝŶƚŽŶ͍ A Yeah. She was -- Q She did not -- A She was traveling with President Clinton when I met her. Q ^ŽƚŽďĞĐůĞĂƌ͕ƐŚĞĚŝĚŶŽƚŬŶŽǁ^ĞĐƌĞƚĂƌLJ… | ||
| 8800 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 37 | Page 38 | and Ms. DĂdžǁĞůůǁĞƌĞĚĂƟŶŐ͍ A tĞĂƩĞŶĚĞĚĂůŽƚŽĨƚŚĞ'/ĞǀĞŶƚƐ͘ dŚĞƌĞǁĂƐĂůŽƚŽĨ͕LJŽƵŬŶŽǁ͕ĚŝŶŶĞƌƐ͘ /ƚǁĂƐ͕ LJŽƵŬŶŽǁ͕ĐŽƌĚŝĂů͕ƐŽĐŝĂů͘ Q ƵƌŝŶŐŚŝƐĚĞƉŽƐŝƟŽŶƚŽƚŚŝƐĐŽŵŵŝƩĞĞ͕WƌĞƐŝĚĞŶƚ ůŝŶƚŽŶƚĞƐƟĮĞĚƚŚĂƚŚĞĨĞůƚŚĞǁĂƐ ĐůŽƐĞƌƚŽDƐ͘ DĂdžǁĞůůďĞĐĂƵƐĞŽĨLJŽƵ͘ tŚLJĚŽLJŽƵƚŚŝŶŬWƌĞƐŝĚĞŶƚ ůŝŶƚŽŶǁŽƵůĚƐĂLJƚŚĂƚLJŽƵǁĞƌĞƚŚĞƌĞĂƐŽŶŚĞǁĂƐĐůŽƐĞƌƚŽ Ms. DĂdžǁĞůů͍ A ŐĂŝŶ͕/ĚŽŶΖƚ -- /ĚŽŶΖƚŬŶŽǁ͘ /ƚŚŝŶŬŝƚΖƐďĞĐĂƵƐĞ/ǁĂƐƐƉĞŶĚŝŶŐƟŵĞǁŝƚŚƚŚĞŵ͘ Q ŝĚƚŚĞůŝŶƚŽŶƐƐƉĞŶ… | ||
| 8801 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 38 | Page 39 | Q Understood. ŝĚLJŽƵŝŶƚƌŽĚƵĐĞĞŝƚŚĞƌWƌĞƐŝĚĞŶƚ ůŝŶƚŽŶŽƌ^ĞĐƌĞƚĂƌLJ Clinton to Mr. ƉƐƚĞŝŶ͍ A No. Q ŝĚDƐ͘DĂdžǁĞůůŝŶƚƌŽĚƵĐĞDƌ͘ Epstein to President ůŝŶƚŽŶ͍ A /ĚŽŶΖƚŬŶŽǁƚŚĞĂŶƐǁĞƌƚŽƚŚĂƚ͘ Q ŝĚƐŚĞŝŶƚƌŽĚƵĐĞŚŝŵƚŽ^ĞĐƌĞƚĂƌLJ ůŝŶƚŽŶ͍ A /ĚŽŶΖƚŬŶŽǁ͘ Q /ΖĚůŝŬĞƚŽƌĞƚƵƌŶŶŽǁƐƉĞĐŝĮĐĂůůLJƚŽŚĞůƐĞĂůŝŶƚŽŶΖƐǁĞĚĚŝŶŐ͘ ,ŽǁǁŽƵůĚLJŽƵ ĐŚĂƌĂĐƚĞƌŝnjĞDƐ͘ DĂdžǁĞůůΖƐƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉǁŝƚŚŚĞůƐĞĂůŝŶƚŽŶ͍ A Friendly. Q ŶĚŚŽǁŽŌĞŶǁŽƵůĚƚŚĞLJŝŶƚĞƌĂĐƚ͍ A /ĚŽŶΖƚ -- /ĚŽŶΖƚŬŶŽǁ͘… | ||
| 8802 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 39 | Page 40 | A Yes. Q &ŽƌĞdžĂŵƉůĞ͕ĐĞƌĞŵŽŶLJ͕ƌĞĐĞƉƟŽŶ͕ĂŶLJŽƚŚĞƌĞǀĞŶƚƐŝŶĐůƵĚŝŶŐĐŽĐŬƚĂŝůŚŽƵƌ͕ƌĞŚĞĂƌƐĂů ĚŝŶŶĞƌ͘ tŚĂƚǁĞĚĚŝŶŐĞǀĞŶƚƐĚŝĚLJŽƵĂƩĞŶĚǁŝƚŚDƐ͘ DĂdžǁĞůůŽŶƚŚĞĚĂLJŽĨŚĞůƐĞĂ ůŝŶƚŽŶΖƐ ǁĞĚĚŝŶŐ͍ A /ƌĞĐĂůůĂƩĞŶĚŝŶŐƚŚĞĐĞƌĞŵŽŶLJĂŶĚƚŚĞĞǀĞŶƚƐĂŌĞƌǁĂƌĚƐ͘ /ĚŽŶΖƚƌĞĐĂůůĂƩĞŶĚŝŶŐ ƐŽŵĞƚŚŝŶŐƚŚĞŶŝŐŚƚďĞĨŽƌĞ͘ Q And was Ms. DĂdžǁĞůůǁŝƚŚLJŽƵƚŚƌŽƵŐŚŽƵƚďŽƚŚƚŚŽƐĞĞǀĞŶƚƐ͍ A EŽƚĐŽŶƟŶƵŽƵƐůLJ͕ďƵƚ/ďĞůŝĞǀĞƐŽ͘ Q Did Ms. DĂdžǁĞůůŽƌLJŽƵŝŶƚĞƌĂĐƚǁŝƚŚWƌĞƐŝĚĞŶƚ ůŝŶƚŽŶĂƚĂŶLJŽĨƚŚŽƐĞǁĞĚ… | ||
| 8803 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 40 | Page 41 | A EŽƚƚŚĂƚ/ŬŶŽǁ͘ Q /ŶϮϬϬϵ͕ƚŚĞLJĞĂƌďĞĨŽƌĞŚĞůƐĞĂ ůŝŶƚŽŶΖƐǁĞĚĚŝŶŐ͕DƐ͘ Maxwell had been subpoenaed ƚŽƚĞƐƟĨLJŝŶĂĐŝǀŝůĐĂƐĞĂŐĂŝŶƐƚ:ĞīƌĞLJ ƉƐƚĞŝŶǁŚŝĐŚǁĂƐďƌŽƵŐŚƚďLJŽŶĞŽĨŚŝƐĂĐĐƵƐĞƌƐ͘ ŶĚƚŚĞŶŵŽŶƚŚƐďĞĨŽƌĞŚĞůƐĞĂ ůŝŶƚŽŶΖƐǁĞĚĚŝŶŐ͕DƐ͘ DĂdžǁĞůůĐůĂŝŵƐƐŚĞĐŽƵůĚŶŽƚĂƉƉĞĂƌ ĨŽƌŚĞƌĚĞƉŽƐŝƟŽŶďĞĐĂƵƐĞƐŚĞĐůĂŝŵƐƐŚĞǁĂƐŽƵƚŽĨƚŚĞĐŽƵŶƚƌLJĨŽƌĨĂŵŝůLJƌĞĂƐŽŶƐ͘ Were you aware that Ms. DĂdžǁĞůůǁĂƐĂĐƟǀĞůLJĂǀŽŝĚŝŶŐŚĞƌĂƉƉĞĂƌĂŶĐĞĂƚĂĚĞƉŽƐŝƟŽŶĂƚ ƚŚĞƟŵĞƚŚĂƚƐŚĞĂƩĞŶĚĞĚŚĞůƐĞĂ … | ||
| 8804 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 41 | Page 42 | A No. Q zŽƵĚŝĚŶΖƚƉĂLJĨŽƌĂƩŽƌŶĞLJƐ -- A No. Q -- ĂŶLJǁŚĞƌĞ͍ Were you aware that Ms. DĂdžǁĞůůǁĂƐĂǀŽŝĚŝŶŐƚŚĞĚĞƉŽƐŝƟŽŶďLJƐĂLJŝŶŐƐŚĞǁĂƐŽƵƚŽĨƚŚĞ ĐŽƵŶƚƌLJĨŽƌĂŶĞdžƚĞŶĚĞĚƉĞƌŝŽĚŽĨƟŵĞ͍ A No. Q ŽLJŽƵŬŶŽǁŝĨƐŚĞĞǀĞƌĂĐƚƵĂůůLJůĞŌƚŚĞĐŽƵŶƚƌLJŝŶϮϬϭϬ͍ A /ĚŽŶΖƚŬŶŽǁ͘ Q ^ŚĞĂůƐŽĐůĂŝŵĞĚƚŚĂƚŚĞƌŵŽƚŚĞƌǁĂƐƐŝĐŬ͘ tĞƌĞLJŽƵĂǁĂƌĞŽĨŚĞƌŵŽƚŚĞƌďĞŝŶŐƐŝĐŬ at any point in those 2 LJĞĂƌƐ͍ A ƚƐŽŵĞƉŽŝŶƚ/ƌĞŵĞŵďĞƌŚĞƌŵŽƚŚĞƌ͕ďƵƚ/ĚŽŶΖƚŬŶŽǁŝĨŝƚǁĂƐ -- /ĚŽŶΖƚŬŶŽǁŝĨŝƚǁĂƐ ƚŚ… | ||
| 8805 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 42 | Page 43 | ĨĂŵŝůLJƚŚĞƌĞ͍ A /ũƵƐƚƌĞŵĞŵďĞƌŐŽŝŶŐŽŶĐĞƚŽŵĞĞƚŚĞƌŵŽƚŚĞƌ͘ Q ŝĚLJŽƵĞǀĞƌĚŝƐĐŽƵƌĂŐĞŚĞƌĨƌŽŵĂǀŽŝĚŝŶŐƚŚĞĚĞƉŽƐŝƟŽŶ͕ŽƌĚŝĚLJŽƵĞǀĞƌĞŶĐŽƵƌĂŐĞ ŚĞƌƚŽŐŽƚŽƚŚĞĚĞƉŽƐŝƟŽŶ͍ A /ĚŽŶΖƚƌĞĐĂůůƚŚĂƚůĞǀĞů -- ƚŚĂƚĚĞƚĂŝůŽĨĐŽŶǀĞƌƐĂƟŽŶĂƌŽƵŶĚƚŚĂƚƚŽƉŝĐ͘ Q Ghislaine DĂdžǁĞůůǁĂƐĂƌƌĞƐƚĞĚŽŶ:ƵůLJϮŶĚ͕ϮϬϮϬ͕ĂŶĚĐŚĂƌŐĞĚǁŝƚŚ͕ĂŵŽŶŐŽƚŚĞƌ ƚŚŝŶŐƐ͕ƚŚĞƌĞĐƌƵŝƚŵĞŶƚ͕ƚŚĞŐƌŽŽŵŝŶŐ͕ĂŶĚƚŚĞĂďƵƐĞŽĨƵŶĚĞƌĂŐĞŐŝƌůƐĂŶĚŽƚŚĞƌǁŽŵĞŶŝŶƚŚĞ ϭϵϵϬƐĂŶĚƚŚĞĞĂƌůLJϮϬϬϬƐ͘ ^ŽǁŚĞŶĚŝĚLJŽƵĮƌƐƚůĞĂƌŶ… | ||
| 8806 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 43 | Page 44 | ĐŽŵŵŝƩĞĚ͕ĐĂŵĞĨƌŽŵŵĞĚŝĂƌĞƉŽƌƚƐĂŶĚŶŽƚĨƌŽŵĂŶLJĮƌƐƚŚĂŶĚŬŶŽǁůĞĚŐĞ͍ A No -- LJĞƐ͕ĐŽƌƌĞĐƚ͘ Q /ƚĐĂŵĞĨƌŽŵŵĞĚŝĂƌĞƉŽƌƚƐ͍ A From media. BY MS. CATHEY: Q ŝĚLJŽƵĚŝƐĐƵƐƐƚŚĞĂůůĞŐĂƟŽŶƐǁŝƚŚDƐ͘ DĂdžǁĞůůĂƚĂŶLJƉŽŝŶƚ͍ A No. Q ŝĚLJŽƵŚĂǀĞĂŶLJĐŽŶƚĂĐƚǁŝƚŚDƐ͘ DĂdžǁĞůůŝŶƚŚĞLJĞĂƌƐƚŚĞŝŶǀĞƐƟŐĂƟŽŶǁĂƐŽŶŐŽŝŶŐ͍ A No. Q ŝĚLJŽƵŚĂǀĞĂŶLJĐŽŶƚĂĐƚǁŝƚŚŚĞƌĂŌĞƌƐŚĞǁĂƐĂƌƌĞƐƚĞĚ͍ A No. Q ŝĚLJŽƵĂƐƐŝƐƚŚĞƌŝŶĂŶLJǁĂLJŝŶƚŚĞĐƌŝŵŝŶĂůŝŶǀĞƐƟŐĂƟŽŶĂŐĂŝŶƐƚŚĞƌ͍ A EŽ͘ EŽƚƚŚĂƚ/ŬŶŽǁŽĨ… | ||
| 8807 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 45 | Page 46 | ϭϬ͗ϱϵĂ͘ŵ͘ BY MS. CATHEY: Q /ΖŵĂƐŬŝŶŐƐƉĞĐŝĮĐĂůůLJŝŶƚŚŝƐƋƵĞƐƟŽŶĂďŽƵƚƚŚĞƟŵĞĨƌĂŵĞĂŌĞƌLJŽƵďƌŽŬĞƵƉĂŶĚƚŚĞŶ ůĞĂĚŝŶŐƵƉƚŽŚĞƌĂƌƌĞƐƚ͘ ŝĚLJŽƵŚĂǀĞĂŶLJƐƵƐƉŝĐŝŽŶƐĂďŽƵƚŚĞƌŝŶǀŽůǀĞŵĞŶƚŝŶĂŶLJŬŝŶĚŽĨĐƌŝŵŝŶĂů ĂĐƟǀŝƟĞƐ͍ A No. Q ŽLJŽƵŚĂǀĞĂŶLJƐƵƐƉŝĐŝŽŶƐ͕ďĂƐĞĚŽŶLJŽƵƌƟŵĞĚĂƟŶŐŚĞƌ͕ƚŚĂƚǁŽƵůĚŚĂǀĞůĞĚLJŽƵƚŽ ďĞůŝĞǀĞƚŚĞŝŶǀĞƐƟŐĂƟŽŶǁĂƐǁĂƌƌĂŶƚĞĚ͍ A EŽƚŚŝŶŐƚŚĂƚ/ĐĂŶƌĞĂůůLJƌĞĐĂůů͘ dŚĞƌĞǁĂƐƚŚŝŶŐƐĂƌŽƵŶĚDƌ͘ Epstein, and she always ĚĞŶŝĞĚĂŶLJĚŝƌĞĐƚŝŶǀŽůǀĞŵĞŶƚŝŶĂŶLJŽĨƚŚ… | ||
| 8808 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 46 | Page 47 | ŵŝŶŝŵƵŵ͘ ^ŽƚŚĂƚΖƐǁŚĂƚ/ΖůůƐƚƌŝǀĞĨŽƌ͘ :ƵƐƚŚĂĚƚǁŽƋƵŝĐŬĨŽůůŽǁ-ƵƉƋƵĞƐƟŽŶƐŽŶĐŽŶƚĞŶƚŝŶƚŚĞƉƌĞǀŝŽƵƐƌŽƵŶĚ͖ŽŶĞ͕ǁŝƚŚƌĞƐƉĞĐƚƚŽ ƚŚĞĚŝŶŶĞƌŝŶ,ŽŶŐ<ŽŶŐǁŚĞƌĞLJŽƵĮƌƐƚŵĞƚDƐ͘DĂdžǁĞůů͘ :ƵƐƚĨŽƌŵLJĐůĂƌŝĮĐĂƟŽŶ͕LJŽƵǁĞƌĞŶŽƚ ŽŶƚŚĂƚƚƌŝƉƚŚĂƚWƌĞƐŝĚĞŶƚůŝŶƚŽŶǁĂƐŽŶ͘ /ƐƚŚĂƚƌŝŐŚƚ͍ A No, I was not on that trip. Q tĞƌĞLJŽƵĂůƌĞĂĚLJŝŶ,ŽŶŐ<ŽŶŐ͍ A Yes. Q ƵƐŝŶĞƐƐŽƌƐŽŵĞƚŚŝŶŐůŝŬĞƚŚĂƚ͍ A I was there on business. I saw in the newspapers that President Clinton was in town. Q … | ||
| 8809 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 47 | Page 48 | Q Could you -- LJŽƵƚŽƵĐŚĞĚŽŶŝƚŝŶƚŚĞƉƌĞǀŝŽƵƐƌŽƵŶĚ͕ďƵƚĐŽƵůĚLJŽƵƚƌLJ͕ĨƌŽŵϯϬ͕ϬϬϬ͕ ĨĞĞƚƚŽũƵƐƚĚĞƐĐƌŝďĞƚŚĞŐĞŶĞƌĂůĂƌĐŽĨLJŽƵƌƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉǁŝƚŚDƐ͘DĂdžǁĞůů͍ /ŬŶŽǁǁŚĞŶŝƚƐƚĂƌƚĞĚ͕ /ŬŶŽǁǁŚĞŶŝƚĞŶĚĞĚ͘ ŝĚŝƚƐŽƌƚŽĨŐĞƚŐƌĂĚƵĂůůLJŵŽƌĞƐĞƌŝŽƵƐďĞĨŽƌĞŝƚƚĂƉĞƌĞĚŽī͍ ,ŽǁĚŽLJŽƵ ǀŝĞǁŝŶƐƵŵŵĂƌLJƚŚĞƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉ͍ A /ŵĞĂŶ͕ŝŶƐƵŵŵĂƌLJŝƚǁĂƐ͕ůŝŬĞ/ƐĂŝĚ͕ŝƚƐƚĂƌƚĞĚŝŶϮϬϬϰ͕ĞŶĚĞĚŝŶϮϬϭϬ͘ /ΖŵƚƌLJŝŶŐƚŽ ĮŐƵƌĞŽƵƚĞdžĂĐƚůLJǁŚĂƚLJŽƵΖƌĞůŽŽŬŝŶŐ -- Q tĞůů͕LJŽƵŬŶŽǁ͕LJŽƵƚĂůŬĞĚĂďŽƵ… | ||
| 8810 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 48 | Page 49 | A Something -- an estate or a property manager type. Q ,ŝƐǀĂƌŝŽƵƐƉŚLJƐŝĐĂůƉƌŽƉĞƌƟĞƐ͍ A Yes. Q ŝĚDƐ͘DĂdžǁĞůů͕ƚŽƚŚĞďĞƐƚŽĨLJŽƵƌƌĞĐŽůůĞĐƟŽŶ͕ĞǀĞƌŵĞŶƟŽŶŵĂƐƐĂŐĞƐŝŶƚŚĞĐŽŶƚĞdžƚ ŽĨŚĞƌǁŽƌŬŝŶŐĨŽƌDƌ͘ ƉƐƚĞŝŶ͍ A EŽƚƚŚĂƚ/ĐĂŶƌĞĐĂůů͘ Q ŝĚDƐ͘DĂdžǁĞůůĞǀĞƌŵĞŶƟŽŶĂƌƌĂŶŐŝŶŐĨŽƌDƌ͘ Epstein to meet or hire girls or young ǁŽŵĞŶ͍ A džĐƵƐĞŵĞ͍ Q ŝĚDƐ͘DĂdžǁĞůůĞǀĞƌŵĞŶƟŽŶ͕ŝŶŚĞƌǁŽƌŬĨŽƌDƌ͘ Epstein, helping him, meaning Mr. ƉƐƚĞŝŶ͕ŚŝƌĞŽƌŵĞĞƚŐŝƌůƐŽƌLJŽƵŶŐǁŽŵĞŶŝŶĂŶLJĐĂƉĂĐŝƚLJ͍ A… | ||
| 8811 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 49 | Page 50 | A /ďĞůŝĞǀĞŝƚǁĂƐĂƐĞƌŝŽƵƐƌĞůĂƟŽŶƐŚŝƉ͘ Q ŝĚƐŚĞĞǀĞƌĚĞƐĐƌŝďĞƚŚĞƌĞĂƐŽŶĨŽƌƚŚĞŝƌďƌĞĂŬƵƉ͍ A ^ŚĞĚĞƐĐƌŝďĞĚŝƚĂƚŽŶĞƉŽŝŶƚ͕ŝƚǁĂƐŽŶŚĞƌϰϬƚŚďŝƌƚŚĚĂLJ͕/ƚŚŝŶŬŚĞďƌŽŬĞƵƉǁŝƚŚŚĞƌĂƚ that point. Q ŝĚƐŚĞŚĂǀĞĂƉĞƌƐƉĞĐƟǀĞƚŚĂƚLJŽƵĐĂŶƌĞĐĂůůĂƐƚŽƚŚĞƌĞĂƐŽŶĨŽƌƚŚĞďƌĞĂŬƵƉ͕ŽƌǁŚĂƚ Dƌ͘ ƉƐƚĞŝŶƐĂŝĚƚŚĞƌĞĂƐŽŶĨŽƌƚŚĞďƌĞĂŬƵƉǁĂƐ͍ A zĞĂŚ͘ /ŵĞĂŶ͕/ďĞůŝĞǀĞƐŚĞŵĞŶƟŽŶĞĚ͕LJŽƵŬŶŽǁ͕ƚŚĂƚƐŚĞǁĂƐŐĞƫŶŐƚŽŽŽůĚĨŽƌŚŝŵ͘ Q ŽLJŽƵƌĞĐĂůů-- ĂŶĚƚŚŝƐŝƐŐŽŝŶŐďĂĐŬĂůŝƩůĞďŝƚ͕ďƵƚĚ… | ||
| 8812 | Ted Waitt — House Oversight Committee 7 | 50 | Page 51 | A Yes. Q tŚĂƚĚŽLJŽƵƌĞĐĂůůƚŚĞĂďŽƵƚƚŚĞŶĂƚƵƌĞŽĨƚŚĞŽƚŚĞƌƚǁŽŽƌƚŚƌĞĞ͍ A dŚĞLJǁĞƌĞũƵƐƚďƌŝĞĨĞŶĐŽƵŶƚĞƌƐ͕ůŝŬĞ͕ŽŶĂƐƚƌĞĞƚŽƌ ŽŶĞǁĂƐŝŶEĞǁzŽƌŬĂŶĚŽŶĞ/ƚŚŝŶŬ was in St. Barts. Q ŽĞƐƚŚĞĚŝŶŶĞƌŝŶ,ŽŶŐ<ŽŶŐ͕ŝƐƚŚĂƚďĞŝŶŐĐŽƵŶƚĞĚĂƐŽŶĞŽĨƚŚĞƐĞƚǁŽŽƌƚŚƌĞĞ͍ A zĞƐ͕ŽŶĞŽĨƚŚŽƐĞĨŽƵƌ͘ &ŽƵƌƚŚĂƚ/ĐĂŶƌĞĐĂůů͘ Q KŬĂLJ͘ tŚĂƚǁĂƐƚŚĞ^ƚ͘ĂƌƚƐŝŶƚĞƌĂĐƟŽŶ͍ A /ǁĂƐũƵƐƚůŝƚĞƌĂůůLJǁĂůŬŝŶŐĚŽǁŶƚŚĞƐƚƌĞĞƚ͘ Q /ŶƚŚĞƚŽǁŶ͍ A In the town. Q tŚĂƚĚŝĚLJŽƵŐĞŶĞƌĂůůLJŬŶŽǁŽƌďĞůŝĞǀĞ͕… |