{"database": "deposition_transcripts", "table": "segments", "rows": [[9951, 16, 20, "Page 21", null, null, "Provided to Morrison Foerster for review on 5/22/2026 Q_ And do you know how they knew each other prior to that or how that played out? A I don't. Q_ Okay. Mr. Biggs. Can | ask a question? | don't want to interrupt, but can | ask a question? Looking back on it, do you view this person as someone who might've been procuring.on behalf of Mr. Epstein? Ms. Hamm, | don't think she can speak to other victims, truly, and I'm notsure she would have the ability to answer that question. Mr. Biggs. | guess, I'm not asking about that other person perse,;whether they're a victim or not. I'm asking whether, in reflection, do you think that she was facilitating luring you into i Mr. Epstein's web? Mr. Timmons. Was she compensated for it? Ms. Kellen. | don't know. Mr. Timmons. Do you think she wasvin\u2019a sexual relationship with Epstein? a5 Ms. Kellen. | don't know. She-never talked about it. BY MS. BRIGNAG; Q = So you mentioned meeting Mr. Epstein at this hotel room. What were your first impressions? A It's \u2018a good question. | didn't have a lot of interaction. It was just -- it was pretty quick. To me, it --_ mean, it was obviously a little odd, not like the typical castings | had been on being ina hotelroom. But it seemed like he was there on business, and the timing of it, and he'd just got a massage, so him being like in the bedroom on the bed didn't -- it, you know, made sense. And, you know, the masseuse was there, so it all kind of added up. But, yeah, | didn't really have like a very strong opinion at that point. Q_ So he asks you to undress. What happens next?"]], "columns": ["id", "deposition_id", "segment_index", "speaker", "start_seconds", "end_seconds", "text"], "primary_keys": ["id"], "primary_key_values": ["9951"], "units": {}, "query_ms": 1.0887160897254944, "source": "Epstein Files Transparency Act (Public Law 119-38) DOJ Production", "source_url": "https://www.justice.gov/epstein", "license": "CC BY-NC-SA 4.0", "license_url": "https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/"}