{"database": "deposition_transcripts", "table": "segments", "rows": [[9788, 15, 28, "Page 29", null, null, "A The last time I communicated with him was when he called me after he was arrested. Q And what was the nature of that conversation? A Again, to the best of my -- to the best of my recollection, it was a very short conversation, probably less than a minute. And, to the best of my recollection, the only thing that he said was that he'd been arrested. And my response was, \"You obviously need to call your lawyer.\" Q He didn't ask you for any legal advice at that time? A Not at that time. Mr. Emmer. Were you aware that he had been arrested prior to this phone call? Ms. Ruemmler. No. That was what alerted me to the fact that he was arrested, was his call. BY MR. GRANT: Q Did he describe any of the facts surrounding why he was being arrested on this call? A Not that I remember. I don't believe so. Q Did he ask you to call or reach out to anyone else on his behalf? A No. Q When was the last time you saw Mr. Epstein in person? A It was at his arraignment in July of 2019. Q And where did that occur? A It was at the Federal courthouse in Manhattan. Q And why did you decide to go to his arraignment? A I wanted to understand what was going on. You know, this is someone who I had dealt with over the prior 5 years. I was absolutely shocked that he had been arrested. It was -- you could've knocked me over with a feather, I was so shocked by it. And I didn't understand, you know, what he was being charged with. And, you know, in Federal court, there aren't any cameras allowed in the court. And I knew -- obviously, I was still -- I was still representing the Rothschild Bank. I had come to have a personal"]], "columns": ["id", "deposition_id", "segment_index", "speaker", "start_seconds", "end_seconds", "text"], "primary_keys": ["id"], "primary_key_values": ["9788"], "units": {}, "query_ms": 1.0480210185050964, "source": "Epstein Files Transparency Act (Public Law 119-38) DOJ Production", "source_url": "https://www.justice.gov/epstein", "license": "CC BY-NC-SA 4.0", "license_url": "https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/"}