{"database": "deposition_transcripts", "table": "segments", "rows": [[9778, 15, 18, "Page 19", null, null, "BY MR. GRANT: Q And between this cold call and the first meeting that you had with Mr. Epstein in person, what did you know about Mr. Epstein leading into that meeting? A I don't remember knowing anything about him. I had never -- I'd never heard of him before. And so, you know, walking into that meeting, I just don't have any specific recollection of knowing much about him at all. I remember, the first meeting, you know -- there were a number of things that were striking about that first meeting that I remember quite well. Q And what were those things? A He -- so he held, you know, his meetings at this townhouse that he lived in in New York. And it was a very large townhouse, extremely large and, you know, imposing from the street. And I recall that there were the -- you know, he -- at the outside of the townhouse, it had two initials. It was a bit strange, was a bit unusual to me. I hadn't seen that before. People typically have their house numbers, but the initials were \"JE.\" And then when I went into the townhouse, I was asked to go to meet him in his office. And the office was enormous. It took up the entire front of the -- you know, street-front of the mansion. And there was an enormous taxidermied tiger on the floor. So that was, I thought -- was something I remember quite well. Q And when you arrived for this meeting, did someone invite you into the house? Was it Mr. Epstein or someone else? A There was -- there is a buzzer outside -- so, like, a, you know -- announcing your arrival. And I believe someone opened -- someone on the staff opened the door for me. And then there was a small office on the first floor, and that was, sort of, if you think about it like a secretarial office. And he had an executive assistant who sat there. So I believe I sat there waiting for the appointment, if you will, and then was told that my --"]], "columns": ["id", "deposition_id", "segment_index", "speaker", "start_seconds", "end_seconds", "text"], "primary_keys": ["id"], "primary_key_values": ["9778"], "units": {}, "query_ms": 1.188153401017189, "source": "Epstein Files Transparency Act (Public Law 119-38) DOJ Production", "source_url": "https://www.justice.gov/epstein", "license": "CC BY-NC-SA 4.0", "license_url": "https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/"}