{"database": "deposition_transcripts", "table": "segments", "rows": [[9670, 14, 35, "Page 36", null, null, "Mr. Higgins. When you say his -- Mr. Shapiro. Epstein's? Mr. Band. Epstein's plane. Mr. Higgins. Epstein's plane. So the Secret Service was the detail for the President, and they would regularly fly on Epstein's plane, according to your description? Mr. Band. The Secret Service would always accompany President Clinton, no matter what. Mr. Higgins. Okay. So it was guests in the front? Mr. Band. Yes, sir. Mr. Higgins. And Secret Service. And the honcho is in the back. Where were you? Mr. Band. In the front. Mr. Higgins. You were in the front. So the President didn't have -- was the chief of staff in the back? Mr. Band. I don't recall who was in the front or the back. I mean, sorry -- whose chief of staff? Mr. Higgins. Do you recall who was in the front or the back? Mr. Band. The President's chief of staff? Mr. Higgins. Yes. Mr. Band. The chief of staff didn't travel all the times. Sometimes she did. Mr. Higgins. Would that make you the senior guy if the chief of staff was not there? Mr. Band. Well, there was a director of policy, there were other aides, other staffers, but for the most part. Mr. Higgins. So you're saying that you never flew in the back of the plane? You were, like, a guest, like me or Chairman Comer would sit in the front, and then there"]], "columns": ["id", "deposition_id", "segment_index", "speaker", "start_seconds", "end_seconds", "text"], "primary_keys": ["id"], "primary_key_values": ["9670"], "units": {}, "query_ms": 2.3283008486032486, "source": "Epstein Files Transparency Act (Public Law 119-38) DOJ Production", "source_url": "https://www.justice.gov/epstein", "license": "CC BY-NC-SA 4.0", "license_url": "https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/"}