{"database": "deposition_transcripts", "table": "segments", "rows": [[9618, 13, 31, "Page 32", null, null, "A Because I thought he was really smart in areas having to do with trusts and foundations and charitable work. Q And this was only a year or two after having met him, correct? A It was a couple years, yeah. Exactly. Q And this appointment caused you to confide personal details about your financial matters and your family with Mr. Epstein, correct? A Yes. Q Did anyone push back on this appointment? A Not that I can recall. Q And how long had -- how long did he serve on the Black Family Foundation? A I think for -- if you're saying it happened in '97 -- is that what you just mentioned? Q Uh-huh. A I think he was on it until he went to jail and was convicted and I asked him to come off it. I would also just mention -- and I know you reminded me about time -- I don't think that entity did a whole lot. Q Why ask Mr. Epstein to resign from the board when he was convicted? A Because I thought it was appropriate if we had a family foundation and there were only three members on it -- my wife, myself, and him -- that he step back from it. Q You've been quoted to say that his conviction was not that big of a deal to you, but it sounds like it did cause concern enough for you to take action in removing him from your family foundation. A As I said, I don't think the family foundation did a lot. But it was something that was out there. It was public. It only had three members. He was in jail. And I"]], "columns": ["id", "deposition_id", "segment_index", "speaker", "start_seconds", "end_seconds", "text"], "primary_keys": ["id"], "primary_key_values": ["9618"], "units": {}, "query_ms": 1.0844282805919647, "source": "Epstein Files Transparency Act (Public Law 119-38) DOJ Production", "source_url": "https://www.justice.gov/epstein", "license": "CC BY-NC-SA 4.0", "license_url": "https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/"}