{"database": "deposition_transcripts", "table": "segments", "rows": [[9610, 13, 23, "Page 24", null, null, "worked for Les Wexner at The Limited for many years. I knew later that he also worked for the Rothschild family, but I don't think I knew that earlier on when you're asking about. He basically said he had done tax work and estate planning work for half a dozen or so families but was not at liberty to tell me other than Wexner. Q And you listed quite a lot of information about him. How did you come to learn all of that information after meeting him at that lunch? A I think a lot of it from him. A lot of it -- oftentimes, when I spent time with him, he also had other people come to those meetings. He actually introduced me to a lot of interesting people over the years. You have to understand -- and this is something -- right now -- and, by the way, I should say I'm in no way defending him. But, clearly, everything that's known about him in the last 5 years is that this was a horrific, reprehensible, criminal pedophile. But in those earlier years, before any of that was known, he was also a very interesting person. He had dinners. He'd have cocktails for three or four people. He'd call me up and say, \"Hey, I'm having this Nobel Prize winner over for a drink. Do you want to join? You'll find him interesting. Why don't you meet this fellow Larsen from Norway who helped put together the Oslo Accords? I think you'll find him interesting.\" He had a dinner for Woody Allen and Dick Cavett. Did I want to join? He had something for magicians where he had three of the world's most famous magicians there. \"If you're around, would you like to join?\" He'd have -- that's where I met Bill Gates. He brought him up to my office to talk about philanthropy for 2 hours. That's where I met Elon Musk. That's where I met Deepak Chopra."]], "columns": ["id", "deposition_id", "segment_index", "speaker", "start_seconds", "end_seconds", "text"], "primary_keys": ["id"], "primary_key_values": ["9610"], "units": {}, "query_ms": 0.681193545460701, "source": "Epstein Files Transparency Act (Public Law 119-38) DOJ Production", "source_url": "https://www.justice.gov/epstein", "license": "CC BY-NC-SA 4.0", "license_url": "https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/"}