{"database": "deposition_transcripts", "table": "segments", "rows": [[9247, 11, 26, "Page 27", null, null, "Mr. Higgins. Okay. Ms. Groff. I don't -- I don't know. It was so long ago. Was there caller ID? Mr. Higgins. Did you have any way of knowing when you called these ladies that you believed to be massage therapists, did you have any way of knowing that you were calling a massage company or business, or was it always a personal phone? Can you shed some light on that? Ms. Groff. I believe it was cell phones. Mr. Higgins. It was cell phones? Ms. Groff. Uh-huh. Mr. Higgins. So did the massage therapists ever introduce themselves? Did they -- did they ever come give a massage to Mr. Epstein at the office? Ms. Groff. Oh, never. No. Mr. Higgins. Okay. I'm just asking. I don't know. Ms. Groff. Yes. Mr. Higgins. Did you ever meet any of them in person? Ms. Groff. I did not. Mr. Higgins. And did you ever have a conversation with them about their equipment, like, how were they transporting their equipment, or did you presume that it was a business? Ms. Groff. I knew that they were to meet at his home, and I believe that he was -- he was equipped with what he needed. Mr. Higgins. I see. And was the massage therapy session timed? Did they say, \"I'm going to do this from 2:00 to 3:00 because I have another appointment at 4:00,\" or what? Ms. Groff. His day was very, very scheduled. Mr. Higgins. No. For the massage therapist. Ms. Groff. Yes. So they -- they would, you know, come for 30 minutes or whatever, you know, the time. It was -- it was usually short."]], "columns": ["id", "deposition_id", "segment_index", "speaker", "start_seconds", "end_seconds", "text"], "primary_keys": ["id"], "primary_key_values": ["9247"], "units": {}, "query_ms": 1.3885404914617538, "source": "Epstein Files Transparency Act (Public Law 119-38) DOJ Production", "source_url": "https://www.justice.gov/epstein", "license": "CC BY-NC-SA 4.0", "license_url": "https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/"}