{"database": "deposition_transcripts", "table": "segments", "rows": [[9015, 9, 40, "Page 41", null, null, "Q Was that regulated? A So in the SHU, it's specific to, like, a certain time that you get to use the phone, and I think if you're on the disciplinary, you don't get to use it. That's, like, different. But that day, Bullock allowed Mr. Epstein to use the phone. Q And Bullock was the correctional officer that was -- A No. Bullock -- Bullock was a counselor. Q Okay. A A unit counselor. Q Okay. BY MR. GRANT: Q You mentioned that you would converse with inmates when giving them their food or when giving them toiletries such as toilet paper. Can you recall what your interactions with Mr. Epstein were when you would interact with him? Did he seem in good spirits? Did he -- you have conversations? A He was never there for that. Q He was never there for that. Okay. A Correct. Q Is that usual that an inmate is never there when you're providing food or providing toiletries? A For Epstein because he's downstairs with his attorney the entire time that he is allotted to be with his attorney. So 90 percent of the time, he's not on the -- the SHU unit. Q Understood. Thank you. A You're welcome. BY MS. FEYERABEND: Q Were you aware that Mr. Epstein attempted to commit suicide in his cell on July 23rd,"]], "columns": ["id", "deposition_id", "segment_index", "speaker", "start_seconds", "end_seconds", "text"], "primary_keys": ["id"], "primary_key_values": ["9015"], "units": {}, "query_ms": 0.7027257233858109, "source": "Epstein Files Transparency Act (Public Law 119-38) DOJ Production", "source_url": "https://www.justice.gov/epstein", "license": "CC BY-NC-SA 4.0", "license_url": "https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/"}