{"database": "deposition_transcripts", "table": "segments", "rows": [[8902, 8, 23, "Page 24", null, null, "Mr. Spectre. Did this friend and their family that was with you have any prior connection with Mr. Epstein, or were they there as your guests and for your visit to your neighbor? Secretary Lutnick. They were just there as my guests, but I don't know -- and I've never heard -- that they had any contact whatsoever with him. Mr. Spectre. Prior or subsequent to the visit? Secretary Lutnick. Prior or subsequent. Mr. Spectre. Thank you. BY MR. EMMER: Q Mr. Epstein didn't offer you a tour of the island while you were there? A No. Other than we walked, I think -- like from where we had lunch, there was a -- this is my best recollection -- is there was, like, a cliff. So we went and sort of looked at the water. Q What were the nature of your conversations with Mr. Epstein during this visit? A Meaningless and inconsequential. I was with my wife and my children and my friends -- another couple and their children. It was a big crowd, and we had lunch and left. Q Besides the group that you arrived with, who else was present on the island? A Just staff. We were -- you know, we were outside under sort of a cover, outside area. That was it. Q Did you see any young women or girls on the island? A No. Q And I asked this in the context of the New York townhome, but did you notice any weird or unusual artwork when you visited the island? A No. I wasn't inside any building. I don't recall being inside any building. Q And you never visited the island again. Is that right? A That's correct, never. Q Did you ever hear rumors about the island -- obviously, now it has the nickname"]], "columns": ["id", "deposition_id", "segment_index", "speaker", "start_seconds", "end_seconds", "text"], "primary_keys": ["id"], "primary_key_values": ["8902"], "units": {}, "query_ms": 2.3141782730817795, "source": "Epstein Files Transparency Act (Public Law 119-38) DOJ Production", "source_url": "https://www.justice.gov/epstein", "license": "CC BY-NC-SA 4.0", "license_url": "https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/"}