{"efta_number": "EFTA00179446", "url": "https://epstein-data.com/EFTA00179446", "pdf_url": "https://epstein-data.com/pdf/EFTA00179446.pdf", "page_count": 10, "pages": [{"page_number": 0, "text_content": " \nNative Placeholder \nNo Images Produced \nEFTA00179446\n\n\n[═══ TRANSCRIPT ═══]\nAbsolutely. Absolutely. You have a friend right out here? Yeah, he's in the car. Okay. I just want to talk to you, though. No, no, no. He's not going to come in. Okay. All right. Let me grab him. I'll show you. Brad, long time? Yeah. You know, I've done some work on him. He's not my... Very, very sensitive and crucial information that he wouldn't get otherwise. That's it. I'll let you count it when we're all done. Okay. Okay. So I just want to... This lady, lawyer, who was on my left next to Brad, she asked me if I know who has Citrix, all these properties all over the world. Anyone having access to Citrix? Go get the documents. Bring them in here. We're going to lay them out on the table. We're going to look at everything. Okay. I've got questions from Brad I need to ask you. Okay. That way you don't ever have to worry about meeting Brad again, about the problem with Brad again. All right. You know, we'll get that straight away. Okay. The garden that we saw, and we looked the other way. Because once the house, we would find condoms on very rare, but two hours of... But this is the people that I couldn't save in front of the camera. I know because I have these documents at home. He doesn't know this. Where exactly did you find that? This was in my desk. I have an Epstein-only garage in New Mexico, the islands. Provide for my house. I have a desk there. This and I have a book, a pilot. I have it there. And also my... It's a power failure. He was very organized. I'll let you keep that and get it. Because one day... I took the... There were two suburbans, identicals, for the staff. One had OnStar. The other one didn't have it or something. Epstein said, oh, Alfredo, you took the one I like. And he used the excuse because that... Whatever it is. But that is that when they show me in the... When I was subpoenaed with Brad, they showed a statement, bank statements with Maxine. I said, Alfredo, g\n... [truncated — add &page=N to /document for full text]", "char_count": 32138}, {"page_number": 1, "text_content": "[TRANSCRIPT] Absolutely. Absolutely. You have a friend right out here? Yeah, he's in the car. Okay. I just want to talk to you, though. No, no, no. He's not going to come in. Okay. All right. Let me grab him. I'll show you. Brad, long time? Yeah. You know, I've done some work on him. He's not my... Very, very sensitive and crucial information that he wouldn't get otherwise. That's it. I'll let you count it when we're all done. Okay. Okay. So I just want to... This lady, lawyer, who was on my left next to Brad, she asked me if I know who has Citrix, all these properties all over the world. Anyone having access to Citrix? Go get the documents. Bring them in here. We're going to lay them out on the table. We're going to look at everything. Okay. I've got questions from Brad I need to ask you. Okay. That way you don't ever have to worry about meeting Brad again, about the problem with Brad again. All right. You know, we'll get that straight away. Okay. The garden that we saw, and we looked the other way. Because once the house, we would find condoms on very rare, but two hours of... But this is the people that I couldn't save in front of the camera. I know because I have these documents at home. He doesn't know this. Where exactly did you find that? This was in my desk. I have an Epstein-only garage in New Mexico, the islands. Provide for my house. I have a desk there. This and I have a book, a pilot. I have it there. And also my... It's a power failure. He was very organized. I'll let you keep that and get it. Because one day... I took the... There were two suburbans, identicals, for the staff. One had OnStar. The other one didn't have it or something. Epstein said, oh, Alfredo, you took the one I like. And he used the excuse because that... Whatever it is. But that is that when they show me in the... When I was subpoenaed with Brad, they showed a statement, bank statements with Maxine. I said, Alfredo, get me 30. He was already involved with this. After the Palm Beach\n... [truncated — add &page=N to /document for full text]", "char_count": 4011}, {"page_number": 2, "text_content": "[TRANSCRIPT] in Europe and find girls for Epstein. And I knew that because I went with my wife. They used to have a computer so powerful, Paul. They used to have a water radiator. To cool the computer. Because they used to download pictures like that so fast. Girls, she has nice breasts, she has this and that. You saw that stuff? Yeah. On the computer? Yeah. Pictures of the girls? Mm-hmm. I did stuff like that? Yeah, I testified that. You testified that already? Yeah, I did. Okay. And Brad knows about it. But I couldn't prove that. That's why they need the guy that fixed the Citrix systems. He lives in Ohio. I'm going to him. Okay? Ghislaine Maxwell. Okay. They asked me if I know, if I knew. The guys who ran his state in Manhattan. I said, I know it's Joseph and Florina. I don't remember this. Here. Joseph and Florina were a domestic managing couple for Ghislaine Maxwell. Okay. You can ask them. They're probably there. They're still there. They're a couple of Filipinos. Okay. Massage, California. I didn't personally knew that this girl was coming from California. These are the numbers. Okay? I'm different. Those are always, those are California numbers? A lot of these are just... No. No, no, no. Of course. Of course. But this is, you have to think about this. This information is only for the, for Epstein, his associates, very close associates. Right. So those are mostly underage girls, those numbers? They were very young. Let me, let me, let me, you, you got to know this. You have to know this. My wife and I, we own a, we used to own a small coffee shop, Mama and Pa Operation. And we wanted to buy the property. Because at that time, they were asking $300,000 conversion. So I, I show the papers to Mr. Epstein for, to help me. I said, Mr. Epstein, can you help me? You know anybody that can give me money? And he said, call this person. So I called this person, beautiful girl, 28 years old. And I said, did Jeff come down? Of course, he was very eager to see him. So he, \n... [truncated — add &page=N to /document for full text]", "char_count": 4009}, {"page_number": 3, "text_content": "[TRANSCRIPT] James. But he renamed the island Little San Jeff because it's Jeffrey Epstein. Massage Island. I don't know if any of these girls, they came. It's got guys on there, too, huh? Yeah, but they don't. You mean like boys, too, or just girls? No, I never saw guys here. But probably in some other places, probably used male. Okay? Now, in Manhattan, when any of the employees, females or males, were supposed to stay for business, he owned a building. Apartment building, empty, only for his models. There it is. I put apartment on this, my handwriting, okay? For his models, you mean the girls that he... Exactly. He used to stay there and her friends. And he, the way he operated is like a... young looking, so he would be the young looking... I mean, younger girls will be comfortable with... versus a 50-year, 55-year-old guy. Gotcha. But they used to stay in that apartment. All the amenities, he used to take them and entertain them in the best restaurants, a real old, whatever, after he signed them. Very expensive, okay? Any mother of the kid that everybody asked me, who is this kid? There is a girl in the second floor, she's showing me a naked chick. And he says, I don't know. He was the grandfather of a grand... What do you say? Padrino? Grandfather? No, no, no. It's like... Godfather? Godfather. He's the godfather of the... So he has these several pictures and everybody's disgusted because they think that this guy is using his own kids to use pornography inside the house. Eva... Swedish, very tall, she's in her mid-40s. She's still very attractive, married to a millionaire. She used to be in the house, so this is the mother, former mother, and the mother of the kid. Okay? Ehud Barak. I took him... What's that? Former Prime Minister of Israel. He flew in a Gulfstream 3. The Secret Service was there a couple of nights. And I gotta tell you this. It was one of Epstein's girlfriend. He said, take Miami and you kept the Mercedes for the weekend. Very good, Mr. Epstei\n... [truncated — add &page=N to /document for full text]", "char_count": 4012}, {"page_number": 4, "text_content": "[TRANSCRIPT] eyes? Oh, yeah. I saw that, too. And everybody knows the neighbors, you know. Right. I have, I'm going to give you a number for Joe Piscopo. He's a, Joe, no, Joe. Piscopo? No, no, it's not, no, no. That's an actor, no. His name, the neighbor, he saw me doing a lot of things. Alfredo, again, the crazy naked girl. He's still employed. I have three f***ing witnesses. I have it here. The girl who used to come to the house and clean the pool, she said, Alfredo, I'm coming tomorrow. What happened? The whole naked, Alfredo, you know. So, he was. Yeah. So, I'll employ him. Yeah, exactly. Now, again, in Palm Beach, he's not the only one doing this, but he was more than that, you know. Alan Deshawitz, Jeffrey Epstein, portables, all the phone numbers, his brother, okay, Eric Gani, he's the lawyer. He used to stay in my house, in the staff house. He was there for fixing problems, sometimes a girl and this and that. He works with John Luke, also recruiting. I put the arrows of the phone that I remember. And some are here. They are, they know, I know those numbers when they call to the house, okay. So, it's a good reference there. Okay. Senator George Mitchell, okay, every day. He's, Epstein is Democrat, so he was asking for money all the time. Now, this is a very important one. Leslie Wexner, he was Jeffrey Epstein's boss. He owns the Limited, Victoria's Secret, big bucks. Right. Three times more than Epstein's. Wow. And any property, this thing in Ohio, I used to call for my insurance, New Albany, Ohio. They asked me about the thing, and I said, well, I didn't know. There it is, address, phone number. When you say they, you've got to clarify, was this the lawyers? The lawyers, the FBI, the police. No, no, no, the FBI didn't know nothing. Nothing. The FBI just went through the files of the police department, and they didn't subpoena me. We sit down in a coffee shop in Palm Beach, and we sit down there in a suit and tie, and a gentleman and a lady, college graduate,\n... [truncated — add &page=N to /document for full text]", "char_count": 4012}, {"page_number": 5, "text_content": "[TRANSCRIPT] time was, it's not Bell, it's a, it's a small company, but he was very particular of nobody else. I used to have the people and they were in the, filling this page, the contractors who was allowed to stay on Epson's property. John Cassidy, AC, and so on, you know. Yeah. If you hire somebody, they, I would be fired in two seconds. But back to the computers, I was talking about this. Yeah. Did you ever see anything on those computers? Anything, any images of girls or? Exactly. I saw it. You saw it? Remember I told you there was, Ghislaine Maxwell had a, an office under the stairs next to the kitchen. There was stairs, the computer who was irradiated with water. First time in my life I saw that to keep it cool because they used to download pictures like this. Just like that. What kind of pictures? Naked, naked girls from all, from Sweden, from Romania, from Czechoslovakia, from Brazil, from Colombia. All minors, all young girls? Very young, very young. Like when you say very young, how young are you talking? 16, 17, the teenagers, they have braces, most of them. Younger, younger than that though? Yeah, yeah. Okay. And this, and this guy from Citrix, he erased all those images. I assume, I'm assuming. You're assuming? Yeah, because. Were you there when you came and did it? No, that was after my time. Okay. But this lady attorney asked me, do you know who was the, who's the guy fixing the computers? And I said, I don't remember his name. But he said, yeah, he's labeled here. Okay? Yeah. So I'm, it spins every time I go. So I have information of real. It's not, it's going to take me a few minutes. Here at Citrix was the last name you had. Yeah, exactly, where it's Citrix. Eric Gany, George Mitchell. Okay, Citrix, okay. It's labeled right there. Okay. It's the name of the architect. He was in the house. He knew a lot of things about the house. He can be subpoenaed. And he was with me all the time. That's a simple guy, but you know. Right. Yeah. Okay. And Carol\n... [truncated — add &page=N to /document for full text]", "char_count": 4014}, {"page_number": 6, "text_content": "[TRANSCRIPT] to show you the house. Okay. Tom Sawyer had, he fixed the phones. Nobody else. Telephones, Barbara's wife. Okay. Gotcha. Massach, United Kingdom. Again, this is a different house, but a different country, but I'm pretty sure some of these, they will find connections with the girls. Ghislaine Maxwell, phone numbers and address in London. Okay. Palm Beach, 140, and I have more here. All these girls. 60% of these phones are in the lawsuits right now. So, it's very, if you show this in court, you know, I don't know if they're going to. 60% are, so there's 40. Yeah. You say 40% of those numbers are unknown to. Yeah. The police or to. Yeah. Got you. Okay. And all these numbers, one way, at least twice, they contact El Brillo way. If you subpoena the records, you will put one on one. They call for, you know, plus my taking the signature. Sure. Sure. A message and say, well, you've been in the house. It's hard to deny that. Okay. This was my private phone number. Okay. I could have heard of this. And Luella was my assistant. And this is the email that all the email used to get to this Palm Beach manager at earthlink.net. Okay. Michael and Sally . Eight people before me. There were a lot of people in and out because it requires a special kind of people to. Okay. Mike . He's the neighbor. He says El Brillo neighbor. He knows a lot of things. He saw me on the street. We used to talk constantly. He used to come to the house. He flew to the island with Epstein one time to help over there. So, all right. Alan . Landscape architect. He was in the house, but, you know, again, critical witness. Jeffrey . Sorrow Ranch. This is in New Mexico. This is the biggest ranch in New Mexico. Okay. Mike . He was related to Bill Richards, governor of New Mexico. Okay. So, Massachusetts, New Mexico. Jeffrey . Those are all girls from New Mexico? Mike . These are, yeah. All of these. Jeffrey . Those are the girls' numbers or these are girls' numbers? Mike . No. All of these to here. J\n... [truncated — add &page=N to /document for full text]", "char_count": 4011}, {"page_number": 7, "text_content": "[TRANSCRIPT] Gotcha. Jeffrey . Secret Service Personnel Escorting Mr. Baraki Hood. Former Prime Minister of Israel. Okay. He used to fly on jet planes. I don't know those is Secret Service, but I'm pretty sure they can say, we're planning Pound Beach and such, and not . What are on that plane? How is that valuable? Because here, he says, Mr. Baraki, I'll fly you to New York, and some of the girls came along the way. Very private plane. . Yeah. Okay. So, you're thinking about a former head of state. . You can bring this guy down at no time. All right. What else is there? Jean-Luc Brunel, a scout for young females carrying models. This is a phone number that I don't think is in the book. David Copperfield, a magician, this phone number. What's up with that? He was in the house performing tricks. And if you subpoena him, he will say, well, they were his age or not. I'm pretty sure he's an important witness. Now, they were not naked when he was there, but I served him dinner, you know. Eva Anderson, former model and mother of the naked picture. It's Eva Dubin that's married to Anderson. This is the phone number. David Cook, I lost contact with him. He was the chef in Palm Beach. They used to fly with the Epstein when I was in Palm Beach, 2004, 2005. Witnessed, interacted, and chatted daily with underage girls. This I compiled for Brad. So that's pretty much everything. This is it. All right, I just have a couple questions I need to go over from Brad. Just to reiterate, how did you know what was going on with the girls? You just, you see them naked in the house, or? Well, at first, the activity starts with a phone call. Usually it was the ones at Alfredo. And they were going to be three girls. And he called Joanne, I need two massage tables. So I said, yeah. It was collapsible. So we used to run, put, and then disappear. Because everything was supposed to be done, but we were not supposed to be seen in second floor. And when they leave, they used to go to comedy shops or\n... [truncated — add &page=N to /document for full text]", "char_count": 4010}, {"page_number": 8, "text_content": "[TRANSCRIPT] one, excuse me, in my, in the staff house. So I went to the main house, I needed to send some information after the hurricane or something. He was, I had a camera, take the camera, download it and send the camera to Mr. Epstein, wherever he was. So this computer was working. And one day, my wife came to Palm Beach and I said, you want to see something? And, you know, we saw the pictures, yeah, from. Did you ever see any email addresses for the girls? They are crawling in those computers. If they haven't been wiped out by that guy, right? Who was? Something interesting here. Vicky, Vicky. And there's a Virginia here. And his parents. Now some, can you look, mom and parents? Yeah. These are very young girls. Why you have your parents' phone number next to it? You circle that phone, really? Yeah. I just put that, that type of thing highlighted, but I, you will see that why it's. Circle it for me, though, so I know. So much stuff you have. There you go. And there's another one. You will see parents there. You, you, you come to think, he, mom, Amber, mom. And they, they tell mom, I'm in school. I'm in school. I'm in school. I'm in school. I'm in school. I'm in school. I'm in school. I'm in school. I'm in school. Now, this is another one. I went to the house at 8.30 one night. I was coming from public with my groceries, and I saw a shitty car on the driveway, and I called the police. I went over there and I, we came to the police and said, hello, . Can I see some ID? And there's a, I didn't know, there was a report and the police they said, these people are not Kermasun. And they're getting, and they're not Kermasun. And they're, they're, they're not Kermasun. Well, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't know. They wrote a report, and the police said these people are not the Masooms, and they are young people trying to get sex. And it says Carolina house. So it was alre\n... 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