{"efta_number": "EFTA02785609", "page_count": 12, "url": "https://epstein-data.com/EFTA02785609", "pdf_url": "https://epstein-data.com/pdf/EFTA02785609.pdf", "pages": [{"efta_number": "EFTA02785609", "page_number": 0, "text_content": "1.112\n\nEXHIBIT 6\n(Filed Under Seal)\n\nEFTA02785609\n\n", "char_count": 51}, {"efta_number": "EFTA02785609", "page_number": 1, "text_content": "Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP\n\nDocument 1201-22\n\nFiled 01/27/21\n\nPage 2 of 12\n\nPage 1\n\nUNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT\nSOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK\nx\nP\n\nPlaintiff,\nCase No.:\n-against-\n\n15-cv-07433-RWS\n\nGHISLAINE MAXWELL,\nDefendant.\nx\n**CONFIDENTIAL**\nVideotaped deposition of RINALDO\nRIZZO, taken pursuant to subpoena, was\nheld at the law offices of Boies\nSchiller & Flexner, 333 Main Street,\nArmonk, New York, commencing June 10,\n2016, 10:06 a.m., on the above date,\nbefore Leslie Fagin, a Court Reporter\nand Notary Public in the State of New\nYork.\nMAGNA LEGAL SERVICES\n1200 Avenue of the Americas\nNew York, New York 10026\n(866) 624-6221\n\nMAGNAO\nLEGAL SERVICES\n\nEFTA02785610\n\n", "char_count": 668}, {"efta_number": "EFTA02785609", "page_number": 2, "text_content": "Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP\n\nDocument 1201-22\n\nFiled 01/27/21\n\nPage 3 of 12\n\nPage 52\n1\n\nR. Rizzo - Confidential\n\n2\n\nQ.\n\nDid you learn whether your\n\n3\n\nperception was correct?\n\n4\n\nMR. PAGLIUCA:\n\nSame objection.\n\n5\n\nA.\n\nIt was younger.\n\nYes, I did.\n\n6\n\nQ.\n\nHow old was this girl?\n\n7\n\nA.\n\n15 years old.\n\n8\n\nQ.\n\nWhat happens next when Ghislaine\n\n9\n\nMaxwell and Jeffrey Epstein and a 15-year-old\n\n10\n\ngirl walk into Eva\n\n11\n\nhome?\n\nMR. PAGLIUCA:\n\n12\n\nFoundation.\n\n13\n\nA.\n\nObject to the form.\n\nThey proceed into the dining room\n\n14\n\narea, which is across from the living room\n\n15\n\narea.\n\n16\n\nconversation start.\n\n17\n\nnot hear any particulars about the\n\n18\n\nconversation whatsoever.\n\nI go into the kitchen and I hear a\n\n19\n\nVery muffled, I could\n\nMy wife and I are in the kitchen\n\n20\n\npreparing the evening meal.\n\n21\n\nyoung girl into the kitchen.\n\n22\n\nthere is an island with three barstools.\n\n23\n\ninstructs the young girl to sit to the\n\n24\n\nfurthest barstool on the right.\n\n25\n\nQ.\n\nEva brings the\nIn the kitchen,\nEva\n\nDescribe for me what the girl\n\nMAGNA 0\n\nLEGAL SERVICES\n\nEFTA02785611\n\n", "char_count": 1077}, {"efta_number": "EFTA02785609", "page_number": 3, "text_content": "Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP\n\nDocument 1201-22\n\nFiled 01/27/21\n\nPage 4 of 12\n\nPage 53\n1\n\nR. Rizzo - Confidential\n\n2\n\nlooked like, including her demeanor and\n\n3\n\nanything else you remember about her when she\n\n4\n\nwalks into the kitchen.\n\n5\n\nA.\n\nVery attractive, beautiful young\n\n6\n\ngirl.\n\n7\n\ndress.\n\n8\n\ndistraught, and she was shaking, and as she\n\n9\n\nsat down, she sat down and sat in the stool\n\n10\n\nexactly the way the girls that I mentioned to\n\n11\n\nyou sat at Jeffrey's house, with no\n\n12\n\nexpression and with their head down.\n\n13\n\ncould tell that she was very nervous.\n\n14\n15\n16\n17\n\nMakeup, very put together, casual\nBut she seemed to be upset, maybe\n\nBut we\n\nWhat do you mean by distraught and\n\nQ.\n\nshaking, what do you mean by that?\nA.\n\nShaking, I mean literally\n\nquivering.\n\n18\n\nQ.\n\nWhat happens next?\n\n19\n\nA.\n\nWe were, again, the absurdity,\n\n20\n\nnever introduced.\n\n21\n\nroom and say this is -- so my wife and I are\n\n22\n\nin the kitchen and this young girl is sitting\n\n23\n\nthere.\n\n24\n\nI look at my wife.\n\n25\n\nmoment, and so I introduced myself and I\n\nLike you would walk into a\n\nIt was a very uncomfortable moment.\nAnd so I want to ease the\n\nMAGNA 0\n\nLEGAL SERVICES\n\nEFTA02785612\n\n", "char_count": 1177}, {"efta_number": "EFTA02785609", "page_number": 4, "text_content": "Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP\n\nDocument 1201-22\n\nFiled 01/27/21\n\nPage 5 of 12\nPage 54\n\n1\n\nR. Rizzo - Confidential\n\n2\n\nintroduced my wife, and she doesn't really\n\n3\n\nrespond.\n\n4\n\nAnd I asked her, are you okay?\n\nAnd\n\n5\n\nshe doesn't really respond.\n\nNothing verbal,\n\n6\n\nno cues, her head is still down.\n\n7\n\nif she would like some water, tissue,\n\n8\n\nanything, and she basically doesn't respond.\n\nI ask her\n\n9\n\nQ.\n\nYou ask her for a tissue?\n\n10\n\nA.\n\nIf she would like a tissue or some\n\n11\n\nwater at the time.\n\n12\n\nQ.\n\nWas she crying at the time?\n\n13\n\nA.\n\nMy perception, she was on the verge\n\n14\n\nof crying.\n\nAnd I'm trying to loosen the\n\n15\n\nsituation every way I know how, so the only\n\n16\n\nway I knew how, and I thought maybe this wil\n\n17\n\ncomfort her, I said II, by the way, do you\n\n18\n\nwork for Jeffrey.\n\n19\n\nAnd she says that, I guess kind of\n\n20\n\nmade her feel comfortable, because maybe it\n\n21\n\nwas that comment or my persistence, and she\n\n22\n\nsaid yes.\n\n23\n\nshe says I'm Jeffrey's executive assistant,\n\n24\n\npersonal assistant.\n\n25\n\nher, just didn't seem to suit.\n\nSo I said, what do you do?\n\nAnd\n\nWhich, from looking at\n\nMAGNA 0\n\nLEGAL SERVICES\n\nEFTA02785613\n\n", "char_count": 1155}, {"efta_number": "EFTA02785609", "page_number": 5, "text_content": "Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP\n\nDocument 1201-22\n\nFiled 01/27/21\n\nPage 6 of 12\n\nPage 55\n1\n\nR. Rizzo - Confidential\n\n2\n\nAnd I blurted out:\n\n3\n\nexecutive personal assistant?\n\n4\n\ndo?\n\n5\n\nexecutive personal assistant.\n\n6\n\nappointments.\n\nYou're his\nWhat do you\n\nAnd she says I was hired as his\nI schedule his\n\nAnd I'm shocked, and I blurt out :\n\n7\n8\n\nYou seem quite young, how did you get a job?\n\n9\n\nHow old are you?\n\n10\n\nblank:\n\nAnd she says to me, point\n\nI'm 15 years old.\n\n11\n\nAnd I said to her:\n\nYou're 15 years\n\n12\n\nold and you have a position like that?\n\n13\n\nthat point she just breaks down hysterically,\n\n14\n\nso I feel like I just said something wrong,\n\n15\n\nand she will not stop crying.\n\n16\n\nwere at a loss for words, and I keep on\n\n17\n\ntrying to console her, and nothing I was\n\n18\n\nsaying, are you all right, do you need a\n\n19\n\ntissue, do you need water, consoles her.\n\nAt\n\nMy wife and I\n\nAnd then in a state of shock, she\n\n20\n21\n\njust lets it rip, and what she told me was\n\n22\n\njust unbelievable.\n\n23\n24\n25\n\nQ.\n\nWhat did she say?\nMR. PAGLIUCA:\n\nObject to the form\n\nand foundation.\n\nMAGNA 0\n\nLEGAL SERVICES\n\nEFTA02785614\n\n", "char_count": 1118}, {"efta_number": "EFTA02785609", "page_number": 6, "text_content": "Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP\n\nDocument 1201-22\n\nFiled 01/27/21\n\nPage 7 of 12\n\nPage 56\n1\n\nR. Rizzo - Confidential\n\n2\n\nA.\n\nShe proceeds to tell my wife and I\n\n3\n\nthat, and this is not -- this is blurting\n\n4\n\nout, not a conversation like I'm having a\n\n5\n\ncasual conversation.\n\n6\n\nan island, I was on the island and there was\n\n7\n\nGhislaine, there was Sarah, she said they\n\n8\n\nasked me for sex, I said no.\n\n9\n\nThat quickly, I was on\n\nAnd she is just rambling, and I'm\n\n10\n\nlike what, and she said -- I asked her, I\n\n11\n\nsaid what?\n\n12\n\nisland, I don't know how I got from the\n\n13\n\nisland to here.\n\n14\n\nafternoon I was on the island and now I'm\n\n15\n\nhere.\n\n16\n\nnot making any sense to me, and I said this\n\n17\n\nis nuts, do you have a passport, do you have\n\n18\n\na phone?\n\n19\n\nAnd she says yes, I was on the\n\nLast afternoon or in the\n\nAnd I said do you have a -- this is\n\nAnd she says no, and she says\n\n20\n\nGhislaine took my passport.\n\nAnd I said what,\n\n21\n\nand she says Sarah took her passport and her\n\n22\n\nphone and gave it to Ghislaine Maxwell, and\n\n23\n\nat that point she said that she was\n\n24\n\nthreatened.\n\n25\n\nyes, I was threatened by Ghislaine not to\n\nAnd I said threatened, she says\n\nMAGNA 0\n\nLEGAL SERVICES\n\nEFTA02785615\n\n", "char_count": 1215}, {"efta_number": "EFTA02785609", "page_number": 7, "text_content": "Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP\n\nDocument 1201-22\n\nFiled 01/27/21\n\nPage 8 of 12\n\nPage 57\n1\n2\n\nR. Rizzo - Confidential\ndiscuss this.\n\n3\n\nAnd I'm just shocked.\n\nSo the\n\n4\n\nconversation, and she is just rambling on and\n\n5\n\non, again, like I said, how she got here, she\n\n6\n\ndoesn't know how she got here.\n\n7\n\nasked her, did you contact your parents and\n\n8\n\nshe says no.\n\n9\n\nAgain, I\n\nAt that point, she says I'm not\n\n10\n\nsupposed to talk about this.\n\nI said, but I\n\n11\n\nsaid:\n\nI don't\n\n12\n\nunderstand.\n\nHow did you get here.\n\nWe were totally lost for words.\n\n13\n\nAnd she said that before she got\n\n14\n\nthere, she was threatened again by Jeffrey\n\n15\n\nand Ghislaine not to talk about what I had\n\n16\n\nmentioned earlier, about\n\n17\n\nshe used was sex.\n\n18\n\nQ.\n\nagain, the word\n\nAnd during this time that you're\n\n19\n\nsaying she is rambling, is her demeanor\n\n20\n\ncontinues to be what you described it?\n\n21\n\nA.\n\nYes.\n\n22\n\nQ.\n\nWas she in fear?\n\n23\n\nA.\n\nYes.\n\n24\n25\n\nMR. PAGLIUCA:\n\nObject to the form\n\nand foundation.\n\nMAGNA 0\n\nLEGAL SERVICES\n\nEFTA02785616\n\n", "char_count": 1033}, {"efta_number": "EFTA02785609", "page_number": 8, "text_content": "Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP\n\nDocument 1201-22\n\nFiled 01/27/21\n\nPage 9 of 12\nPage 58\n\n1\n\nR. Rizzo - Confidential\n\n2\n\nQ.\n\nYou could tell?\n\n3\n\nA.\n\nYes.\n\n4\n\nMR. PAGLIUCA:\n\nSame objection.\n\n5\n\nA.\n\nShe was shaking uncontrollably.\n\n6\n\nQ.\n\nWhat happens with this 15-year-old\n\n7\n\ngirl next?\n\n8\n\nMR. PAGLIUCA:\n\n9\n\nand foundation.\n\n10\n\nA.\n\nObject to the form\n\nAs she is trying to explain, and\n\n11\n\nI'm asking questions because I'm as feared as\n\n12\n\nshe is at this point.\n\n13\n\napproach and she just shuts up.\n\nWe hear people\n\n14\n\nQ.\n\nWhat happens next?\n\n15\n\nA.\n\nEva comes in and tells her that she\n\n16\n\nwill be working for Eva in the city.\n\n17\n\nQ.\n\nAs what?\n\n18\n\nA.\n\nAs a nanny.\n\n19\n\nQ.\n\nDid you see this girl again?\n\n20\n\nA.\n\nYes.\n\n21\n\nQ.\n\nAnd when?\n\n22\n\nA.\n\nOn a flight maybe a month or so to\n\n23\n\nSweden.\n\n24\n\nQ.\n\nWhat was the purpose of the flight?\n\n25\n\nA.\n\nWe were going to Sweden for the\n\nMAGNA 0\n\nLEGAL SERVICES\n\nEFTA02785617\n\n", "char_count": 916}, {"efta_number": "EFTA02785609", "page_number": 9, "text_content": "Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP\n\nDocument 1201-22\n\nFiled 01/27/21\n\nPage 10 of 12\nPage 59\n\n1\n\nR. Rizzo - Confidential\n\n2\n\nsummer.\n\n3\n\nQ.\n\nWho was on the flight?\n\n4\n\nA.\n\nThe\n\n5\n\nQ.\n\nAs well as this girl?\n\n6\n\nA.\n\nYes.\n\n7\n\nQ.\n\nWhat happens?\n\n8\n\nA.\n\nOne thing that I forgot to mention\n\nfamily.\n\n9\n\nis during our initial conversation, I asked\n\n10\n\nher what her name was\n\n11\n\nwas\n\nshe said her name\n\n12\n\nQ.\n\nWhat happened with\n\n13\n\nA.\n\nWe flew to Sweden, we stopped at an\n\n14\n\nairport that we didn't usually stop at and\n\n15\n\nshe got off the plane.\n\n16\n\nQ.\n\nJust so that I make sure I\n\n17\n\nunderstand, who it was that she says asked\n\n18\n\nher for sex on the island, who was that?\n\n19\n\nMR. PAGLIUCA:\n\n20\n\nFoundation.\n\n21\n\nA.\n\nObject to the form.\n\nShe didn't specify who asked for\n\n22\n\nsex.\n\n23\n\nImmediately after that she put Ghislaine and\n\n24\n\nSarah into the conversation.\n\n25\n\nShe said that they asked for sex.\n\nQ.\n\nTaking her passport?\n\nMAGNA 0\n\nLEGAL SERVICES\n\nEFTA02785618\n\n", "char_count": 960}, {"efta_number": "EFTA02785609", "page_number": 10, "text_content": "Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP\n\nDocument 1201-22\n\nFiled 01/27/21\n\nPage 11 of 12\nPage 60\n\n1\n\nR. Rizzo - Confidential\n\n2\n\nA.\n\nYes.\n\n3\n\nQ.\n\nFrom\n\nare there any other\n\n4\n\nincidents or occurrences that you observed\n\n5\n\npersonally with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine\n\n6\n\nMaxwell?\n\n7\n\nMR. PAGLIUCA:\n\nObject to the form\n\n8\n\nand foundation.\n\n9\n\nA.\n\nNot that I can recall.\n\n10\n\nQ.\n\nThis last event that you described,\n\n11\n\nwhat's the timeframe when that occurred?\n\n12\n\nA.\n\nLate 2004, 2005.\n\n13\n\nQ.\n\nWhen did you resign your employment\n\n14\n\nfrom the\n\nfamily?\n\n15\n\nA.\n\nI think roughly October.\n\n16\n\nQ.\n\nOf what year?\n\n17\n\nA.\n\n2005.\n\n18\n\nQ.\n\nWhy?\n\n19\n\nA.\n\nMy wife and I had discussed these\n\n20\n\nincidents, and this last one was just, we\n\n21\n\ncouldn't deal with it.\n\n22\n23\n24\n25\n\nQ.\n\nWhen you left your employment with\nfamily, did you have a job?\n\nthe\nA.\n\nWhen we finally left, I stayed on\n\nthree months after my resignation, I had a\n\nMAGNA 0\n\nLEGAL SERVICES\n\nEFTA02785619\n\n", "char_count": 951}, {"efta_number": "EFTA02785609", "page_number": 11, "text_content": "Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP\n\nDocument 1201-22\n\nFiled 01/27/21\n\nPage 12 of 12\nPage 141\n\n1\n2\n\nCERTIFICATE\n\n3\n4\n5\n\nI HEREBY CERTIFY that RINALDO\n\n6\n\nRIZZO, was duly sworn by me and that the\n\n7\n\ndeposition is a true record of the testimony\n\n8\n\ngiven by the witness.\n\n9\n10\n11\n\nLeslie\n\nagin,\n\nRegistered Professional Reporter\n12\n\nDated:\n\nJune 10, 2016\n\n13\n14\n15\n\n(The foregoing certification of\n\n16\n\nthis transcript does not apply to any\n\n17\n\nreproduction of the same by any means, unless\n\n18\n\nunder the direct control and/or supervision\n\n19\n\nof the certifying reporter.)\n\n20\n21\n22\n23\n24\n25\n\nMAGNA 0\n\nLEGAL SERVICES\n\nEFTA02785620\n\n", "char_count": 620}]}