{"efta_number": "EFTA02339289", "page_count": 6, "url": "https://epstein-data.com/EFTA02339289", "pdf_url": "https://epstein-data.com/pdf/EFTA02339289.pdf", "pages": [{"efta_number": "EFTA02339289", "page_number": 0, "text_content": "From: \nDeepak Chopra \nSent: \nSaturday, August 6, 2016 11:06 AM \nTo: \njeffrey E. \nSubject: \nRe: Clock synchronisation, Relativity, Retrocausality and the Paranormal \nI don't know \nThe tiger is bringing me to places I had abandoned It looks like the MGH / Harvard CHOPRA Mind/Brain Institute will \nactually happen - which means riding the tiger even more . I've wanted validation from scientists - some is happening \nand some will remain ever skeptical and condescending Suddenly it does not feel important What do I enjoy most ? \nI don't know that I can really say ! \nMy biological needs are met occasionally but - that too - it seems I've been there / done that . \nI have 3 more books to write and then will be done with that as well I will be going for 1 week silence at the end of this \nmonth with a small group Maybe some more clarity then I do enjoy the company of younger intellectually sharp and self \naware women and love to engage with them to inspire and stimulate them \n114 \nDeepak Chopra \n2013 Costa Del Mar Road<x-apple-data-detectors://0> Carlsbad, CA 92009<x-apple-data-detectors://0> \nIX] \nSuper Genes: Unlock the Astonishing Power of Your DNA for Optimum Health and \nWellbeing<http://www.amazon.com/Super-Genes-Astonishing-Optimum-Well-Being/dp/0804140138/deepakchcom07-\n20> \nOn Aug 6, 2016, at 12:45 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com<mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com» wrote: \nwhat do you enjoy the most now? what type of experience? new people? learning. ? quiet.? you and i are able to \nput together quite an extensive catalouge of disappointments. \nwe have another 20 years to play , actively. . how \ndo you think about it. . the tiger restricts some choices. but carries you to places unknown to most. \nOn Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 12:45 AM, Deepak Chopra \nwrote: \nOk :) \nDeepak Chopra \n2013 Costa Del Mar Road \nCarlsbad, CA 92009 \n(cid] \nSuper Genes: Unlock the Astonishing Power of Your DNA for Optimum Health and \nWellbeing<http://www.amazon.com/Super-Genes-Astonishing-Optimum-Well-Being/dp/0804140138/deepakchcom07-\n20> \nEFTA_R1_01302320 \nEFTA02339289\n", "char_count": 2071}, {"efta_number": "EFTA02339289", "page_number": 1, "text_content": "On Aug 5, 2016, at 4:18 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com<mailtoleevacation@gmail.com» wrote: \nYou already do \nOn Friday, 5 August 2016, Deepak Chopra \nrote: \n4\n.11 \nI've met Paul Selig \nI'd like to know your experience \nDeepak Chopra \n2013 Costa Del Mar Road \nCarlsbad, CA 92009 \n(cid:i \nSuper Genes: Unlock the Astonishing Power of Your DNA for Optimum Health and \nWellbeing<http://www.amazon.com/Super-Genes-Astonishing-Optimum-Well-Being/4/0804140138/deepakchcom07-\n20> \nOn Aug 5, 2016, at 11:56 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote: \ni did like the fart in cosmic time. . it appears we know the same woman. :) \nfyl my concisouness guys are bringing around an empath called paul selig at noon. \nim going to push the woo \nenvelope. \nOn Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Deepak Chopra < \nwrote: \ngris He comes around nastily \nDeepak Chopra \n2013 Costa Del Mar Road \nCarlsbad, CA 92009 \nicid:] \nSuper Genes: Unlock the Astonishing Power of Your DNA for Optimum Health and \nWellbeing<http://www.amazon.com/Super-Genes-Astonishing-Optimum-Well-Being/dp/0804140138/deepakchcom07-\n20> \nBegin forwarded message: \nFrom: Jack Sarfatti \nDate: August 5, 2016 at 8:04:26 AM GMT+2 \n2 \nEFTA_R1_01302321 \nEFTA02339290\n", "char_count": 1213}, {"efta_number": "EFTA02339289", "page_number": 2, "text_content": "To: Deepak Chopra \nCc: Deepak Chopra \nMichelle Kathryn McGee < \nShe'll Joye \nBrian Josephson \nCynthia Sue Larson \n\"Jim Johnston\" \nC Langan \n>, \"Paul Zielinski\" < \n, Leanne Whitney MIM \n, art wagner \n, John Horgan IMINIRM \nDavid Kaiser \n\"Stanley A. KLEIN\" a, \nRudy Tanzi Ma, \n\"Henry P. Stapp\" \n\"Stuart R - (hameroff) Hameroff\" \nJagdish Mann \nKim Burrafato \n< \nRussell Targ \nJoseph Firmage \nErhardWerner =IMMa \ncreon levit \nnick herbert \nSaul-Paul Sirag \n, George Johnson a, \nJohn \nAlexander \n, \"Robert Addinall\" \nAnte Lauc \n\"Gary S Bekkum\" \nSubject: Re: Clock synchronisation, Relativity, Retrocausality and the Paranormal \nEinstein called it a stubbornly persistent illusion. \nSent from my iPad \nOn Aug 4, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Deepak Chopra \nwrote: \nJack --we are all fictional characters in a cosmic dream -not even a sneeze or fart in cosmic time --time itself an illusion . \n2013 Costa Del Mar Road \nCarlsbad, CA 92009 \nThe Chopra Foundation<http://www.choprafoundation.orgk<http://www.choprafoundation.orgh \n(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/l/SlryZ4SaSrl._SL500_55115_.jpg] \n<http://www.amazon.com/Super-Genes-Astonishing-Optimum-Well-Being/dp/0804140138/deepakchcom07-20> \n<http://www.amazon.com/Super-Genes-Astonishi ng-Optimum-Well -Being/dp/0804140138/deepakchcom 07-20>Super \nGenes: Unlock the Astonishing Power of Your DNA for Optimum Health and Wellbeing<http://www.amazon.com/Super-\nGenes-Astonishing-Opti mum-Well-Bei ng/dp/0804140138/deepakchcom 07-20> \nFrom: Jack Sarfatti\nSent: Friday, August 5, 2016 1:38:48 AM \nTo: Deepak Chopra \nCc: Michelle Kathryn McGee; \nShelli Joye; Brian Josephson; Cynthia Sue Larson; Jim \nJohnston; C Langan; Paul Zielinski; Leanne Whitney; Deepak Chopra; art wagner; John Horgan; David Kaiser; Stanley A. \nKLEIN; Rudy Tanzi; Henry P. Stapp; Stuart R - (hameroff) Hameroff; Jagdish Mann; Kim Burrafato; \nRussell Targ; Joseph Firmage; ErhardWerner; creon levit; nick herbert; Saul-Paul Sirag; George \n3 \nEFTA_R1_01302322 \nEFTA02339291\n", "char_count": 1979}, {"efta_number": "EFTA02339289", "page_number": 3, "text_content": "Johnson; John Alexander; \nRobert Addinall \nBekkum \nSubject: Re: Clock synchronisation, Relativity, Retrocausality and the Paranormal \nSent from my iPad \nOn Aug 4, 2016, at 9:26 PM, Deepak Chopra \nAll causality is fiction in a non local universe . \nU r writing fiction \nThe universe is not nonlocal \nThe universe is locally retrocausal at the quantum level \nwrote: \nThe appearance of causality is a result of veiled non locality and cosmic censorship . \nMuddled malapropism \nThe observer is an activity of the total universe as is the observed . \nIf that makes u happy believe it \nGet over it people \nYou can't use an illusion to explain an illusion \nOnly psychotics cannot distinguish illusion from reality. \nDeepak Chopra \n2013 Costa Del Mar Road \nCarlsbad, CA 92009 \nAnte Lauc; Gary S \nSuper Genes: Unlock the Astonishing Power of Your DNA for Optimum Health and \nWellbeing<http://www.amazon.com/Super-Genes-Astonishing-Optimum-Well-Being/dp/0804140138/deepakchcom07-\n20> \nOn Aug 5, 2016, at 3:09 AM, Michelle Kathryn McGee \nwrote: \nRemi, \nIt has been a dream of mine to make the acquaintance of a capable and open-minded physicist who would review my \nwork. Feel free to delve as you wish. Any and all feedback is welcome. I have met physicists over the years but none \nare willing to examine anything beyond the abstract. A good old fashioned Mexican stand-off! \n4 \nEFTA_R1_01302323 \nEFTA02339292\n", "char_count": 1401}, {"efta_number": "EFTA02339289", "page_number": 4, "text_content": "I am currently preparing a paper for Cosmos & History, the philosophy journal where the Foundation of Mind \nconference proceedings go. A late draft is attached. \nThe title is \"Notes from the existential underground: the universe as a complex emergent system.\" \nIn it, I refer to Chris Langan's work from 2002 (CTMU) and my own from 2003 (Novel View): \nImplications of a novel view of the cosmological energy density and pressure \nrelationship<https://independent.academia.edu/MichelleKMcGee> (Academia.edu<http://academia.edu> link) \nYour daring sensibility in deconstructing lack's pet retrocausality has been a pleasure to read. Many great \nteaching/learning points and connections. \nRegards, \nmichelle \nOn Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Remi Cornwall-\nYes of course but how are the measurements communicated? \nrote: \nSay you have a box coupled electromagnetically to whatever its measuring and sending signals to control, how does the \nbox communicate with the controller several miles away. By radio, yes, correct. What if the control communicates to the \nbox by a quantum channel sending classical data with the measure/no-measure protocol\"? \nAt the bottom of it, relativity is all about metrology/horology. You're communicating time and length standards. \nlet's look at a time standard (limit to SR). The usual thing is clocks in a frame are moved from the origin very slowly to \ntheir destinations in the frame. They ping off the seconds and a record of their time and we can say, although they all \nkeep the same rate of time, the distant ones are retarded or delayed as we read their times pinging every second back \nat the origin. We know full well that this is just the transit time but it is verboten to speak of distant observers having the \nsame instant of time as oneself. This is the failure of simultaneity in time. \nWhat if now we communicate our clock standard by a quantum channel and the collapse protocol (discernable by an \ninterferometer, 0: no measurement, 1: measurement**)? We know that the collapse is instantaneous (let's not argue \nthat, it's been measured, at least retrospectively*** ). We'd have simultaneity. \nNow we can compare putative retrocausal effects against this gold standard of simultaneity as, at least in one frame, we \ncan say we have an absolute tick of the clock. To be truly retrocausal, with this time standard, I would need some \nphenomena where: variable = f( tl, t2, variable, d variable/dt, d this that/dt etc.) and not merely have some retarded \ntime term t' = t - r/c because our gold standard quantum channel synchronised clocks would catch this (ha ha, light is \n\"slow\"). \nAnd it just may be... a gifted psychic person gets into a trance in a laboratory (today) and says, \"let's all not meet here \nnext week because the security guard goes mad at 11.30 Friday and kills us all\" (and he does turns up next week and has \nno-one to kill, as predicted and avoided). That would be truly retrocausal. The effect from next week just pops into that \nlocale (that point in space and absolute time) and his head with no discernable causality (no wave equation, no chugging \nof things through space-time, totally discontinuous). \nIn fact the sine qua non of a retrocausal effect could only be this discontinuous generation of events on a space-time \ndiagram and the retrospective cognizance (or correlation) that it was connected to a future event WITH the absolute \nquantum channel time standard. \n5 \nEFTA_R1_01302324 \nEFTA02339293\n", "char_count": 3479}, {"efta_number": "EFTA02339289", "page_number": 5, "text_content": "Note, this rules out the \"magic\" of entanglement collapse as retrocausal, as we have gotten over this little miracle and \nnow use it as technology for our clock standards. 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