{"efta_number": "EFTA01245461", "page_count": 9, "url": "https://epstein-data.com/EFTA01245461", "pdf_url": "https://epstein-data.com/pdf/EFTA01245461.pdf", "pages": [{"efta_number": "EFTA01245461", "page_number": 0, "text_content": "FD-302(Rev. 54-10) \n-1 of 9 -\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION \n• \nOFFICIAL RECORD\n01: \nf.4 \nDate of entry \n \n01/13/2021\n, date of birth \n, was interviewed at the FEDERAL \nBUREAU OF INVESTIGATION at 290 Broadway, New York, New York. Present for \nthe interview was \nAlso present for the interview was Assistant United States Attorney \nIII and Special Agent \n. After being advised of the identities \nof the above listed individuals and the nature of the interview, \nprovided the following information: \nmet \n(known to law enforcement as \nand her life took a different turn. \nworked for JEFFREY EPSTEIN. \nstill has trouble dealing with it; she normalized it in her mind for \nso long. \nknew meeting EPSTEIN was wrong but he was smart and he \nfelt like her friend. EPSTEIN would hug \nand made her feel like he \nwas the only person she had. \nwanted to feel mad about it but \nEPSTEIN was all she had for so many years; \ndid not completely know \nhow to feel about it. Saying it all out loud, \nrealized how messed \nup it was and it took a long time for \nto get to that point. \nhas seen movies and always wondered why people did not leave when in similar \nsituations. \nhas asked herself why she continued to have the \nrelationship with EPSTEIN. \nstill talks toll. (known to law \nenforcement as III \nand \n(known to law enforcement as \nhas also talked to her sister and a therapist. \nno longer speaks with \nlovolipoogion 11/04/2020  at New York, New York, United States (In Person) \npike 500-NY-3027571 \nMtcdtafted \n01/05/2021 \nIbis document contanyr neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FD1. It is the property of the FRI and is loaned to your agency: it and its centents arc not \nto be diatributcd outride your agency. \nCONFIDENTIAL \n3501.019-001 \nPage I of 9 \nEFTA_00056920 \nEFTA01245461\n", "char_count": 1788}, {"efta_number": "EFTA01245461", "page_number": 1, "text_content": "FO.301a (Rev -13-10) \n50D-NY-3027571 \nCtotiniudicn of FD•302 et (U) Interview of \n.ria 11/04/2020 m, \n2 of 9 \nWhen \nwas 15 years old, \nand her sister had no guardian. \nWhen \nmet \nthey smoked weed together. \nwas independent \nand also 15 years old. \nwas living with her mother and a \"go \ngetter\". \nmom was strict while \nwas not. A month after \nmother passed away, \nmet EPSTEIN. \nhad told \nabout a guy (EPSTEIN) who \ntalked about like he was a god. \nand \nher friend \nsaw EPSTEIN. \ntalked to \nabout her \nproblems. \nwould pay for \nfood - \nalways had money. \nworked at a Greek restaurant BAZOOKAS that had Greek music. \ntried to get \na job like that. \nagreed to meet EPSTEIN. \nhad told \nto massage EPSTEIN and that \nhe liked pretty girls and she may have to massage him in her bathing suit. \nEPSTEIN was nice, comforting, and welcoming to \ndescribed \nEPSTEIN's house as hug and like a dream. \nstated it felt like a high \nwhen she would go there. \nThe first time \nmet EPSTEIN he knew everything about her. EPSTEIN \nlistened, hugged her, and comforted her. EPSTEIN came at the right time in \nlife as he seemed like a savior. There was no thought process as \njust went with it. EPSTEIN reassured \nthat he would always \nbe there if she ever needed anything. \nrecalled the feeling that \nEPSTEIN loved and cared about her. The first time she went to EPSTEIN's \nhome in Manhattan, \nwas nervous and recalled fixing her makeup and \nwanting to look older. \nrecalled walking up to EPSTEIN's front door \nbecause it was so massive. \ntook \nto meet EPSTEIN. They \nwalked into his Manhattan mansion as people let them in, then they waited in \nthe office. EPSTEIN came in and showed \naround. \nrecalled \nwalking by his office and seeing leopard print chairs and thinking it was so \ncool because she loved leopard print. \nrecalled going to different \nfloors before going to the massage room. \nrecalled the massage room as having a table with a little desk by \nit. The room had a full cabinet with so many lotions, including B\n... 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The president went on \na trip with EPSTEIN on EPSTEIN's private jet. \nfelt that EPSTEIN \nwould brag about these calls on purpose. \nEPSTEIN was always talking to someone in power. \nwas very \nintimidated by him. EPSTEIN was very powerful and had a very strong \npresence. EPSTEIN would come in wearing \"stupid sweaters\" that had \"JE\" on \nthem. \nstated EPSTEIN \"was so extra\". EPSTEIN had towels that had \nhis initials on them. \ndescribed that EPSTEIN was funny and had a \ngood sense of humor and would make them laugh. \nwanted to be a \nsuperstar; \nEPSTEIN told \nthat he had all these connections with models, and he knew the head \nof Victoria's Secret. EPSTEIN made a lot of promises. \nA few times, EPSTEIN drove \nhome with a driver. \nrecalled \nthey were in a black pickup suburban. EPSTEIN tried to ask \nto do \nstuff. \nEPSTEIN told \nhe could take her places and she could fly \nwith him. \nwas scared to \nbe in cars and flying. EPSTEIN bought \nthings including Victoria's \nSecret lingerie. EPSTEIN really liked \n. EPSTEIN did not care if \nhad someone; he just wanted to see her. \nand \ntold \nthat EPSTEIN really liked her and she should go with \nhim. \ndid not like flying so she did not travel with EPSTEIN. \nwould call the office and talk to girls. EPSTEIN always had \nLESLEY (known to law enforcement as LESLEY GROFF) call \nthen he would \ncome on the phon\n... [truncated, 2308 chars — for the full page use /api/corpus/document/EFTA01245461/2 or ?id=EFTA01245461&page=2]", "char_count": 2308}, {"efta_number": "EFTA01245461", "page_number": 3, "text_content": "FD•301a (Rev. '410) \n5OD-NY-3O27571 \nCanino/dice of FD•302d (U) Interview of \nm a 11/04/2020 j1/\n48, 4 of 9 \nIf • \ngirl and \nEPSTEIN personally. \nwould ask for money or Broadway show tickets, \nthen \nwould usually go to the office to pick up the money or \ntickets. If \nneeded something and it was after office hours she \nwould call EPSTEIN. \nrecalled giving LESLEY her identification when \nshe went to the office for tickets. LESLEY checked her ID before giving her \nthe tickets. \nwas picking up approximately six tickets. LESLEY just \nlooked at her ID and gave it back to her. \nthought she was looking \nat it to maybe just make sure it was her. This was in the beginning during \none of her first encounters with LESLEY. \nthought this was around \n2003. The first time \nhad gone to the office was a few months after \nshe started seeing EPSTEIN. \nthought the office was in Midtown. \nSometimes, \nwent with some of the girls, including \nor \n, to the office. \ndid not go to the office with III as III \nand EPSTEIN formed their own relationship and he saw III on his own. Most \nof the times \nwent in a cab to the office by herself. \never needed anything she would call LESLEY because she was a \nfelt comfortable talking to her. \nwould rarely call \nEPSTEIN was straight to the point, asking when he would see \nor if \nshe had anyone new. EPSTEIN would tell her she could come at a certain \ntime. Sometimes, \nwent to EPSTEIN's residence 2 to 3 times a day to \ngive him a massage. They did not speak over the phone about it. \nwould massage EPSTEIN and they would end in \"happy endings\". \nThen about six months later, EPSTEIN took \nto a different room, which \nwas an open room that included a jacuzzi and a lot of shower heads. This \nwas EPSTEIN's bedroom. This was the first time EPSTEIN had sex with \n. EPSTEIN had sex with \nhundreds of times over the years. \nEPSTEIN did not always have sex with \nevery time he saw her. \nSometimes, EPSTEIN just wanted to \"jerk off\" and watch \nor want her \nto \"jerk him off\". \n... [truncated, 2511 chars — for the full page use /api/corpus/document/EFTA01245461/3 or ?id=EFTA01245461&page=3]", "char_count": 2511}, {"efta_number": "EFTA01245461", "page_number": 4, "text_content": "FD•301a (Rev -,13-10) \n50D-NY-3027571 \nCanino/dice of FD•302d (U) Interview of \nm a 11/04/2020 •p, 5 of 9 \nknew the massages were sexual because \nhad told her. \ntold \nthat she met EPSTEIN through her friend \ntold \nthat EPSTEIN was rich, he would help her, and give her money. \ntold \nthat she would have to massage EPSTEIN and it would lead \nto a \"happy ending\" and that EPSTEIN sometimes \"jerked himself off\". \ntold her she would get $300 each time. The massages turned sexual right \naway when \nstarted seeing EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN always gave her $300, \nsometimes he gave her $400. If \nwent with someone, sometimes it was \nwould get $300 and \nor another girl would get $300. \nEPSTEIN paid \nhimself. If EPSTEIN gave \nthe full amount, \nsometimes \nonly gave \n$200 and kept the rest for herself. \nasked LESLEY if she could borrow $1000 and EPSTEIN said she \ncould. \nwent to the office to pick it up. \ndescribed LESLEY \nas blonde and nice. \nwould tell LESLEY to tell EPSTEIN that her \nfriend could not make it and asked if he wanted to see \nwould mention different girls' names to LESLEY. \npretty obvious LESLEY knew what was going on. When \nwas 17/18 years \nold she found out she was pregnant. \ncalled the office to talk to \nLESLEY, saying she needed to speak to EPSTEIN as soon as possible because \nshe needed money to get an abortion. \nsaid the procedure would cost \nher $400. LESLEY was able to get EPSTEIN on the phone right away and \nEPSTEIN gave \n$1000 in an envelope. \nthen went to Planned \nParenthood. EPSTEIN would send \nto his dentist and medical care \nproviders if she needed it. \ninstead. \nfelt it was \nwas supposed to go to school in 9th grade but \nshe could not focus. With \n\"selling her body to an older man\" she felt she was \"tucked up\". \nwould rather call LESLEY than EPSTEIN when she needed money. \nLESLEY knew she was staying in hotels. \nwas too young to get an \napartment in her name as she was 16 years old at the time, so she stayed in \nhotels, including Super 8. \nwould call LESLEY, wh\n... 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Key words she \nwould say to LESLEY was, \"I have a new friend and I was going to take her to \ndinner and get her nails done\". LESLEY would tell her \"ok\", put her on \nhold, and get EPSTEIN on the line. \nhad a deeper conversation with \nLESLEY in person. There was a time when \nhad to wait because the \nmoney was not ready when she went to pick it up from the office - usually \nthe money was ready but that time it was not and she and LESLEY talked. \nfelt it was clear her relationship with EPSTEIN was based on money \nand she felt it was clear she was underage. \nsaid things stopped when EPSTEIN was arrested in Florida. \nEPSTEIN had gone to Florida and she did not see him for a while and did not \nknow what had happened. \njust thought that he went away. \nhad \ngotten a notice when EPSTEIN was arrested. \ntold EPSTEIN and \nremembered being scared about it. EPSTEIN said he got in trouble in \nFlorida. \nremembered being mad for him. EPSTEIN said that if she \nsaw or heard anything, she did not know anything and to ignore it. LESLEY \nsaid EPSTEIN was still in Florida. \ndid not think she knew what was \ngoing on and LESLEY did not mention it. \nWhen EPSTEIN came back to New York, there were rules. One of the rules \nwas that girls had to bring ID and had to be 18 years old. This was for a \nfew \n... [truncated, 2502 chars — for the full page use /api/corpus/document/EFTA01245461/5 or ?id=EFTA01245461&page=5]", "char_count": 2502}, {"efta_number": "EFTA01245461", "page_number": 6, "text_content": "FD•301a (Rev -,13-10) \n50D-NY-3027571 \nCanino/dice of FD•302d (U) Interview of \nma 11/04/2020 m, \n7 of 9 \nconversations about why she could not get an apartment. EPSTEIN knew \nage because he asked right away, also asking where she was from \nand what was hex birthday. \ntold him she was a \nand EPSTEIN \ntold her he was an Aquarius. \nTwo to three months after meeting EPSTEIN, \nbrought \nwas \nbest friend at the time, before \nhad met \nEPSTEIN would as): questions about her day and she would talk about \n, so EPSTEIN told her that she should bring her. Sometimes, \nlied to EPSTEIN that she did not have anyone. \nwould try to find a \ngirl to go with her if he was not seeing her as much. EPSTEIN wanted a \ncertain age group, even 20 was too old for him. EPSTEIN liked 15 to 18 \nyears old girls and liked them on the \"slim side\". When \nwas 16 \nyears old, she started training and her \"butt got bigger\" and EPSTEIN told \nher that she needed to lose ten pounds. When EPSTEIN first started asking \nher to bring girls, he said something like, \"Do you have any friends, but on \nthe slim side?\". After the first few conversations with him he did not have \nto tell her anymore. EPSTEIN would settle if he had to if the girl looked \nyoung but would tell \nnever to bring her again. EPSTEIN did not like \naggressive or experienced girls. EPSTEIN hated one girl because she tried \nto do more with him and initiated more. EPSTEIN liked shy and timid girls. \nEPSTEIN did not want anyone over 18 years old. \nand III talked about \nit once and they brought a girl just to shut him up and EPSTEIN replied \n\"really\". \nEPSTEIN would turn them down. There would be certain girls \nknew would be willing to go. To \nthe money she received at \nthe time felt like a lot of money. \nwould tell girls that they would \nmassage EPSTEIN and sometimes he would masturbate. \nmade it seem \nlike it was normal. \nnormalized it in her own brain. When \nwould take a girl the first time, she would stay with the other girl. \nSometimes EPSTEIN w\n... 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EPSTEIN \nalways told \nhe was going to get her into Victoria's Secret, telling \nher he knew NAOMI CAMPBELL. There was one time where EPSTEIN introduced \nto CAMPBELL while they were in EPSTEIN's office with the stuffed \ntiger. \nrecalled something about MIKE TYSON but did not remember \nwhat it was. EPSTEIN may have been talking to TYSON on speaker phone and \nheard. EPSTEIN was always on the phone with others including, BILL \nCLINTON and DONALD TRUMP. \nEPSTEIN and \ntalked via phone call but never through email or \ntext. EPSTEIN gave her lingerie. \nstill has the first bra EPSTEIN \ngave her; it was a white lace Victoria's Secret bra. \nhad picked the \nlingerie up from the office; LESLEY gave it to her in a Victoria's Secret \nbag. EPSTEIN also gave \nearrings, but she gave those away. \nWhen \nwas not around EPSTEIN she did not want to go see him, but \nwhen she was around him she wondered why she was beating herself up about \nseeing him. EPSTEIN was \nonly source of income for a while. \nwas able to get \na job with \nfor a while. \nfelt that LESLEY knew the massage appointments were sexual. \nwould talk with LESLEY about different girls and LESLEY was always \nconnecting her with EPSTEIN. LESLEY would get back on the call with \nwhen EPSTEIN was done ta\n... [truncated, 2308 chars — for the full page use /api/corpus/document/EFTA01245461/7 or ?id=EFTA01245461&page=7]", "char_count": 2308}, {"efta_number": "EFTA01245461", "page_number": 8, "text_content": "FD•302a (Rev. '410) \n50D -NY -3027571 \nCmiinurimof FDd02 of (U) Interview of \nstation downtown. \nwent to court and \naround 17 year sold and \nhappened. \nthoug \nthe end of summer. \n.on 31/04/2020 •pan 9 of 9 \ncalled LESLEY and EPSTEIN bailed them out. They \nand III had to do community service. \nwas \nthought III would have been 16 yeaxs old when this \nht this happened in or around 2004 probably around \nThe last time \nsaw EPSTEIN was when she was 21 years old. \nthought she spoke with EPSTEIN sometime afterwards because she had a bill \nfrom EPSTEIN's dentist DR KAPLAN and had called LESLEY. EPSTEIN had \nreturned her call while she was in Walmart with her boyfriend. \nthought she was around 23/24 years old at the time of this call. EPSTEIN \ntold her not to worry about the bill. \nthought the bill was around \n$5000. EPSTEIN told her he was going through stuff but everything was ok \nand that he hoped to see her soon. EPSTEIN never called her again. \nCONFIDENTIAL \n3501.019-001 \nPage 9 of 9 \nEFTA_00056928 \nEFTA01245469\n", "char_count": 1023}]}