JAMES PATTERSON ; + 8 dq ing me. And mentioni | me, yes. 10:18 a.m. q Q: Which of my clients are you swearing under oath encour- a 10:20 a.m. aged Virginia Roberts to include allegations of an encounter q F with you at the New Mexico ranch? g f Q: What was the name of A: Both of them—both of your clients, both Judge Cassell Bf A: Her name is—her first and Mr. Edwards—were both involved in encouraging 4 i Q: Yes. [their] client to file a perjurious affidavit that they knew or 4 3 A: I don't know the last na should have known was perjurious recently when they | q Q: Did you attempt to find sought to file another defamatory allegation in the federal 4 a A: I have her last name wr proceeding. # a Q: Where? Q: Was the arrangement such that what you are charging Brad- a 4 A: It’s inmy—in my notes ley Edwards and Professor Paul Cassell with doing was sub- b | Q: When did you write Ret orning perjury? a | A: When she—when she f A: Absolutely. If you ask me the question, I am directly charging F 4 since you've asked me tt Judge Cassell and Bradley Edwards with suborning perjury.[ : At first her husband ; have been advised that Virginia Roberts did not want to a q would not give me their n mention me, told her friends that she did not want to men- had a series of phone « tion me. And was, quote, pressured by her lawyers into 3 : = please, to tell me their na including these totally false allegations against me. Yes, your 3 a they told me the story in g clients are guilty of suborning perjury. 3 i her name. She asked me Q: Who told you that Bradley Edwards pressured Virginia Rob- q 4 her identity without her E erts into falsely identifying you? F her. Called her as recently A: A friend of Virginia Roberts who called me out of the blue : I want to recall—I dc and told me that she was horrified by what was happening to © q I called her twice last ni me and that she recently had meetings with Virginia Roberts 4 reveal her complete name and Virginia Roberts had told her th