130 1 BY MR. SIMPSON: 2 Q. Whatever the flight -- the date of the 3 Flight? 4 A. Yeah. I think that sounds too old for 5 Tatiana. 6 Q. Okay. 7 A. But I mean, I don't, you know, we could 8 obviously check into it so... 9 Q. And you do know though that she was over 18? 10 A. Eighteen or over, yes. 11 Q. Eighteen or over. And have you ever heard of 12 an older man having a relationship with a younger woman; 13 has that ever happened in your experience? 14 A. Sure, but what -- 15 Q. That's my -- 16 A. I guess, how much of a difference? I mean 17 the question is, you Know -- sure, there are examples of 18 that. It's unusual, but there are examples of that. 19 Q. Is a 24-year-old woman an adult? 20 A. Yes. 21 Q. Is there anything criminal or anything 22 criminal about a man of Jeffrey Epstein's age having a 23 relationship with a 24-year-old woman? 24 MR. SCAROLA: I assume you agree that depends 25 upon the nature of the relationship. ROUGH DRAFT ONLY HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_021953