128 1 Mr. Dershowitz on a flight with Tatiana; is that right? 2 A. Correct. 3 Q. Did you find out before December 30th of 2014 4 how old Tatiana was at the time? 5 A. Yes. 6 Q. How -- how old was she? 7 A. I understood she was around -- which time are 8 we referring to, 1998? 9 Q. We are referring to when she -- the log shows 10 her on a flight with Professor Dershowitz. 11 A. Yeah, I was understood she was over the age, 12 she was 18 or older, you know, and I think within a 13 couple of years maybe 18. 14 Q. And you heard today that Mr. Dershowitz's, 15 Professor Dershowitz's wife was able to determine in a 16 few second on Google that she was 24 at the time. Any 17 reason to question that? 18 A. Well, because -- I think I want to look at 19 the information we were talking about. Is the question 20 of time frame and so, you know, the Dershowitzes on 21 these flights with Epstein in 1998, and I think 2004, 22 2005, which is, you know, there's like a -- obviously a 23 six or seven-year period, so I would want to know 24 exactly what time frame we are talking about. 25 Q. Well -- ROUGH DRAFT ONLY HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_021951