112 1 don't want -- I'm not going to get into communications 2 that Mr. Edwards and I had, which you have asked what 3 was my state of mind on December 30th as to why I hadn't 4 called Mr. Dershowitz? 5 My own personal state of mind, not revealing 6 any attorney/client communications, but it does revolve 7 around Virginia Roberts. I had in front of me evidence 8 of an international sex trafficking organization that 9 was going to the Fifth in line to the Throne in England, 10 to very powerful people in the United States, to a 11 billionaire in Palm Beach, Florida, Epstein. Very 12 powerful people. 13 And what I also had was a history of 14 Mr. Epstein intimidating, threatening witnesses, and in 15 some cases, you know, potentially what seemed to be 16 possibly life-threatening kinds of situations. There 17 was a report of investigators quote, unquote, following 18 I think it was girls or witnesses against Mr. Epstein 19 and, indeed, had done so in a circumstance that 20 suggested the possibility that somebody had been forced 21 off the road. 22 I had been personally and directly involved 23 in an Epstein effort to intimidate a witness in the 24 Summer of 2010, which was a very disturbing incident. 25 The incident took place right around, I don't know, July ROUGH DRAFT ONLY HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_021935