100 1 in my view potentially an unethical one, but I don't 2 think we need to get into that in this litigation. 3 What I saw was a stall tactic going on, and 4 the reason I think it was a stall tactic as we are 5 sitting here now in, what is it, October of 2015, and 6 Mr. Epstein has never been willing to answer questions 7 about his sexual abuse of these girls. 8 And this was back in around, what was it, I 9 guess it would be 2005, 2006, you know, roughly a decade 10 ago, Mr. Dershowitz was offering to make Epstein 11 available. And then that never happened and given the 12 ten-year pattern that -- I guess I should go back. I'm 13 sorry. Let me correct my answer. 14 We should go back to December 30th, 2014, so 15 there -- there appeared to be about an eight-year period 16 of time during which Mr. Epstein had refused to answer 17 any questions about his sexual abuse of girls and yet, 18 Mr. Dershowitz said, oh, it's just a scheduling issue 19 and we will get the Palm Beach Police Department to -- 20 to -- to, you know, to meet and learn all this. 21 The other thing that that I'm seeing here, so 22 now there's -- there's -- Mr. Dershowitz had been 23 involved in concealing Mr. Epstein from the Palm Beach 24 Police Department, but there were others that had done 25 similar sorts of things. ROUGH DRAFT ONLY HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_021923