97 1 recollection as to something that you have not yet told 2 me about. 3 A. So -- and this refreshes my recollection. 4 Sarah Kellen, I think I refer to her as Miss Kellen. 5 Sarah Kellen was the first name. 6 Nadia Marcinkova, Nadia was the first name 7 there. Adrianna Mucinska was the full name of those -- 8 that's the second echelon of the -- of the criminal 9 conspiracy . 10 Oh, this refreshes my recollection that 11 Jeffrey Epstein had answered some questions in the civil 12 litigation. He provided, for example, names of some 13 people who were involved, but he took the Fifth when 14 asked -- he took -- he provided names of some people who 15 would have relevant information in the civil cases. But 16 when asked in deposition about Mr. Dershowitz, he took 17 the Fifth. 18 So I found it significant that for some 19 people, he was willing to answer questions, but with 20 regard to Mr. Dershowitz, he took -- invoked his Fifth 21 Amendment right against compelled self-incrimination 22 presumably because revealing what he knew about 23 Mr. Dershowitz would, you know, cause criminal -- 24 criminal charges potentially to be filed against him. 25 There was a common scheme or plan and I'11 ROUGH DRAFT ONLY HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_021920