69 1 indicated to me, since he was being represented 2 by very experienced legal counsel, that there was 3 more than an insignificant risk of incriminating 4 himself if he answered that. 5 And so Jeffrey Epstein now had taken the 6 Fifth. And one of the things that I was aware of 7 having been involved in, you know, civil 8 litigation and criminal litigation in other 9 cases, once somebody refuses to answer a question 10 like, you know: Do you know Mr. Dershowitz, and 11 they take the Fifth on that, that you're then 12 entitled to draw what's called an adverse 13 inference. You can infer that, well, if they 14 answered that question -- 15 MR. SCAROLA: Excuse me. 16 MS. McCAWLEY: Yeah, I want to make an 17 objection here -- 18 MR. SCAROLA: Pardon me. Could you please 19 try to control your client who keeps jumping up 20 and down and distracting everybody in the room? 21 MS. McCAWLEY: Yeah, and there was also 22 profanity used earlier. I mean, we just have to 23 settle down on this side, take a deep breath, and 24 let him answer his questions. 25 MR. SIMPSON: Look, I mean, the same thing ROUGH DRAFT ONLY HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_021892