67 1 billionaire who was heavily involved in financial 2 issues. I knew that Tatiana was on plane with 3 Mr. Dershowitz and then there was also, if I recall 4 correctly working from memory as you were wondering 5 about, there was a notation that Mr. Dershowitz was on a 6 plane with one female. 7 And so I was -- when I looked at that, I'm 8 seeing Mr. Dershowitz on a flight with a women who 9 doesn't seem to be there for, frankly, anything other 10 than sexual purposes or something along those lines with 11 Mr. Epstein, with Mr. Epstein, who is a sex trafficker, 12 and with one female which seemed to me to be a 13 potentially entry for disguising international sex 14 trafficking. So that was of concern. 15 I then began to look at, well, I wonder, how 16 would I find out if Mr. Dershowitz had been abusing 17 other girls? Let's see, I knew that Virginia Roberts 18 had been forced to -- to -- to do this sort of thing... 19 MS. McCAWLEY: You're okay as long as 20 you're -- if you're revealing something in an 21 affidavit, that she submitted, you're fine. 22 THE WITNESS: Right. So -- so what... let's 23 see. At this point -- 24 BY MR. SIMPSON: 25 Q. Do you want the question back? ROUGH DRAFT ONLY HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_021890