62 1 spreading to Epstein's mansion in New York, it seems to 2 be spreading to Ghislane Maxwell's flat in London, 3 and -- and it goes on. 4 So those are the kinds of things that would 5 have formed the -- the -- the basis. Particularly when 6 you start to add in this fact, what the Palm -- going 7 back now to Florida with the Palm Beach Police 8 Department, the Palm Beach Police Department had 9 discovered, was a not one-off kind of event, one 10 particular day, one particular girl had been sexually 11 abused. What the Palm Beach Police Department had 12 discovered was brazen, notorious, repetitive activity 13 sometimes occurring as often as three times in a 14 particular day. And so that led me to believe that the 15 sexual activity that was going on in Florida was such 16 that someone who was a regular house guest there would 17 have immediately come to the conclusion that, well, 18 look, gee, there are these underage girls coming in here 19 and they seem to be -- you know, they don't seem to be 20 here to be doing business activities, they might be here 21 doing other kinds of activity. So those would be the 22 kinds of things that would -- would have formed the 23 factual basis. 24 There are other things as well, but I'm sure 25 you want to ask other questions in addition to that. So ROUGH DRAFT ONLY HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_021885