61 1 Epstein and then we see on the flight logs one female, 2 that's kind of an odd notation for a flight log because, 3 you know, typically, I understand flight logs, the 4 purpose is, well, if something happens with the flight, 5 or there's some question about who was on and you want 6 to Know who the person was who was on the flight. 7 So, to my mind, when I started to see on 8 these flight logs entries like one female, I view that 9 as a potential device for obscuring the fact that there 10 was interstate trafficking of underage girls for 11 purposes of sexual activity. Serious federal offenses. 12 But then the evidence extended, you know, 13 more broadly than that. The evidence also started to 14 show again if we talk just about flight logs, that 15 the -- that underage girls such as Virginia Roberts were 16 being flown internationally from, for example, Teterboro 17 in New York to locations just to pick one, for example, 18 in London, where again sexual abuse was occurring. 19 And so you started to put together this 20 pattern of criminality that was started in this, you 21 know, I don't know what the right word is here, I don't 22 know -- I don't want to -- you Know, you've heard 23 discussions of hyperbole and things like that, but we 24 have got this nest of, I won't say snakes, but we have 25 this nest of criminals in Florida, but it seems to be ROUGH DRAFT ONLY HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_021884